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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"When Barry gets back (unbelievable that I can see us relying on Gareth Barry), it'll be interesting to see where he puts Gerrard as he clearly fancies Lampard centrally.'"
I think he'll go back to playing from the left, I think Capello does prefer the system we used in qualifying - since we went away from that in the subsequent friendlies I think the standard of our performances have slipped.
The problem is unless the first choice 11 are fit and firing that system doesn't really work that well because of our lack of depth.
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| Load of cack, after watching Argentina and then that, we stand no chance at all.
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| Well at least I won't be getting carried away and think we have a chance after that complete tosh. We looked clueless for the majority of the game and could easily have lost when Green managed to palm it on to his own post. I'm sorry ITV but it looked to me that Green palmed it toward his own goal when it was going wide. Not the remarkable save it was made out to be.
Few changes I'd make for Algeria. Hart in for Green. Crouch in for Heskey as I thought we looked a lot more dangerous with Crouch on the pitch. Anyone but Carragher in the middle, I'm assuming King is crocked for at least the next 2 games.
Listening to what other people are saying it seems I've called it completely wrong though.
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Well at least I won't be getting carried away and think we have a chance after that complete tosh. We looked clueless for the majority of the game and could easily have lost when Green managed to palm it on to his own post. I'm sorry ITV but it looked to me that Green palmed it toward his own goal when it was going wide. Not the remarkable save it was made out to be.
Few changes I'd make for Algeria. Hart in for Green. Crouch in for Heskey as I thought we looked a lot more dangerous with Crouch on the pitch. Anyone but Carragher in the middle, I'm assuming King is crocked for at least the next 2 games.
=#0000FFListening to what other people are saying it seems I've called it completely wrong though.'"
I agree with you, mate. And so do the other folk watching with me. We were a shambles for most of the game - 90 minutes without scoring against the [iUSA[/i FFS.
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| Typical idiotic fan on facebook "WAT Nobb edds.....CUMON DONT MAKE ME TAKE MY FLAG DOWN...EVEN LATICS COULD PLAY GOOD WITH HESKEY...xxchill time now..ladderes out and Just asked DEBS too remove the flags from the ROOF..BUT SHE WONT.."
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| ITV's punditry is laughable, we drew out first game in 1996 don't you know? England fully dominated the game, Gerrard and Lampard worked well in the middle, Green saved us the game - next it will be Rooney proved why he's one of the best in the world
I thought Johnson and Lennon did well at times, and Gerrard provided some drive from the middle. Terry, Cole and Heskey did exactly what you'd expect them to do but that was it as far as any kind of positives go everything else about the display was disappointing as far as I am concerned.
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Sounds like a jolly good fellow!
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This is the same feller that said he isnt going to another Wigan RL game again until they get to a final 
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Typical idiotic fan on facebook "WAT Nobb edds.....CUMON DONT MAKE ME TAKE MY FLAG DOWN...EVEN LATICS COULD PLAY GOOD WITH HESKEY...xxchill time now..ladderes out and Just asked DEBS too remove the flags from the ROOF..BUT SHE WONT.."
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees...
Well at least one England team won today.
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| [url=http://worldcup.football365.com/story/0,27111,18484_6203364,00.htmlAfter all the hype about getting HD for the World Cup[/url 
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| There'll be no point in dropping Green as James is 2nd choice and he's no better.The best Keeper we've got (Hart) is only 3rd choice and our 2nd best keeper (Robinson)is probably on a beach somewhere.My changes for the 2nd game would be Carragher if King is not fit and Barry in for Heskey and move Gerrard behind Rooney and finally Cole for Milner,swp was useless today and at least Cole will get some crosses in instead of turning inside all the time .
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| I thought that the USA dealt with Rooney too easily. Apart from a couple of touches with around 15 minutes to go he was useless. When he did get the ball his touch was off. Compare his performance with Messi's and you see how much we over-hype players here. Apart from Heskey (!) and Gerrard I thought we were poor.
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| Quote ="Dally"I thought that the USA dealt with Rooney too easily. Apart from a couple of touches with around 15 minutes to go he was useless. When he did get the ball his touch was off. Compare his performance with Messi's and you see how much we over-hype players here. Apart from Heskey (!) and Gerrard I thought we were poor.'"
Rooney had very poor service i thought. I also thought Messi was e, he should have scored at least 4, but bombed chance after chance. It also done my head in how the commentators kept saying how Messi meant to balls up. For example, when he put it just wide with a touch, he should have scored with. The commentators said he meant to knock it on to someone coming onto it, he didn't he, meant to score but put it wide. Every mistake he made, when he should have scored, he meant to not score he was trying to something else, when he wasn't. It was only because it was Messi, anyone else and they would have highlighted how e they was.
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| Quote ="DAR130"There'll be no point in dropping Green as James is 2nd choice and he's no better.The best Keeper we've got (Hart) is only 3rd choice and our 2nd best keeper (Robinson)is probably on a beach somewhere.'"
He just committed a ridiculous error which a schoolboy 'keeper would have been ashamed of.
These things happen, even to the very best 'keepers.
If we had one of the best 'keepers and he did that then you'd accept the screw-up, leave him in the side and move on, knowing he would be giving his all in the rest of the tournament aiming to atone for his error. But Green isn't one of the best 'keepers, he was lucky to be given the place and he let it slip through his hands. Unless England suffer a GK injury Green's involvement in the WC should be over today.
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| Firstly I think far too many people have underestimated just how good the USA are. They are the only team to beat Spain in the last 40 odd games and gave Brazil a hell of a scare in the Confederations Cup final. They don't have any superstars but are a good team.
Feel sorry for Green, he's made a once in a career mistake in the biggest game of his life. He has to be commended though for they way he dealt with it and came back with a stunning save from Altidore. Had he been done on the near post his England career would have been over.
I thought we did ok, with Glen Johnson outstanding. Heskey did well, superb assist for the goal and linked up play well throughout. If only he could finish.
Lampard had a shocker, constantly giving the ball away and going missing for long periods.
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| Average at best today.
Midfield was very poor and I think the sooner Barry gets back the better as we were left vulnerable quite a few times and when you have possibly the slowest man in SA at centre back teams are going to cause problems. Thought Heskey did well but the front two lacked any real service for most of the game.
The result isn't as bad as people are making out, USA are a well drilled side and we can only build from here it cant get much worse.
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| Quote ="Stealth Comic"Feel sorry for Green, he's made a once in a career mistake in the biggest game of his life. He has to be commended though for they way he dealt with it and came back with a stunning save from Altidore. Had he been done on the near post his England career would have been over.'"
Why people are calling that such a great save is beyond me, no keeper should be beaten there, the save only looked good because he was badly positioned in the first place and had to throw an arm out.
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| Quote ="Asim"Why people are calling that such a great save is beyond me, no keeper should be beaten there, the save only looked good because he was badly positioned in the first place and had to throw an arm out.'"
Again I agree. Looked to me like he was out of position and the shot went through him again. Got lucky it hit the post.
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| Quote ="Asim"Why people are calling that such a great save is beyond me, no keeper should be beaten there, the save only looked good because he was badly positioned in the first place and had to throw an arm out.'"
IMO it would have been a good save if he dealt with the shot with strength and put it out for a corner. The fact he met it weakly, on his near post, and only managed to put it against the woodwork just means he got lucky by not giving them two goals.
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| All this crap about Hart being too young. The bloke is quality and the future! Get him in!
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| Quote ="Ajw71"All this crap about Hart being too young. The bloke is quality and the future! Get him in!'"
Yep. At the moment I think all our keepers are pretty equal. Hart has the advantage of youth. So for me I'd give him the nod over the other 2. If he doesn't start during the WC he should have it for the qualifiers.
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| Quote ="Asim"Why people are calling that such a great save is beyond me, no keeper should be beaten there, the save only looked good because he was badly positioned in the first place and had to throw an arm out.'"
Correct, he should have put it out for a corner, or even kept hold of it, not put it on to the post.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"All this crap about Hart being too young. The bloke is quality and the future! Get him in!'"
From what has been said it seems Hart was set to get the nod before the practice game on Monday, but his poor distribution in that game cost him, I think he has definitely been the form keeper this season, but distribution is important at international level so I can see why Capello was bothered by that, I haven't seen enough of Hart to judge his distribution normally.
If he's fit I'd have David James starting for the rest of the World Cup and, as suggested, then install Hart as number 1 going forward from the Euro qualifiers.
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| Quote ="saint billy"Correct, he should have put it out for a corner, or even kept hold of it, not put it on to the post.'"
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