You mean we're not going to win the football world cup? But The Sun said...

Jesus Christ Carragher. I think he was the slowest moving thing in South Africa then.

The thought of Carragher going up against any of the top strikers is a frightening one.

Is it time for Carragher to retire from international football?

I agree. As much as I love him, there are more suitable options available.

I'm not a big fan of Upson, but I find it strange that he's been overtaken in the reckoning by Carragher, I think Dawson has probably been in the best recent form of the contenders, but there isn't much pace there either.



Carragher and Terry together is an accident waiting to happen for me, even in this game.

Heskeys been outstanding? Am I watching a different game?

In my opinion, neither player can play to the required standard in a 4-4-2. As they've 'matured', they've been groomed into total attacking midfielders, second strikers if you will, but either way it's a position that doesn't need discipline and industry, but a position where freedom to roam is needed. It was clear that's where they'd end up years back, but it seems that managers are just expecting them to pull something out of the hat for international football. The thought of Carrick doesn't sound too bad now, to be honest, at least he'd hold his position well.



When Barry gets back (unbelievable that I can see us relying on Gareth Barry), it'll be interesting to see where he puts Gerrard as he clearly fancies Lampard centrally.

Best player IMO, if only he could finish

I think he'll go back to playing from the left, I think Capello does prefer the system we used in qualifying - since we went away from that in the subsequent friendlies I think the standard of our performances have slipped.



The problem is unless the first choice 11 are fit and firing that system doesn't really work that well because of our lack of depth.

Load of cack, after watching Argentina and then that, we stand no chance at all.

Well at least I won't be getting carried away and think we have a chance after that complete tosh. We looked clueless for the majority of the game and could easily have lost when Green managed to palm it on to his own post. I'm sorry ITV but it looked to me that Green palmed it toward his own goal when it was going wide. Not the remarkable save it was made out to be.



Few changes I'd make for Algeria. Hart in for Green. Crouch in for Heskey as I thought we looked a lot more dangerous with Crouch on the pitch. Anyone but Carragher in the middle, I'm assuming King is crocked for at least the next 2 games.



Listening to what other people are saying it seems I've called it completely wrong though.

I agree with you, mate. And so do the other folk watching with me. We were a shambles for most of the game - 90 minutes without scoring against the [iUSA[/i FFS.

Typical idiotic fan on facebook "WAT Nobb edds.....CUMON DONT MAKE ME TAKE MY FLAG DOWN...EVEN LATICS COULD PLAY GOOD WITH HESKEY...xxchill time now..ladderes out and Just asked DEBS too remove the flags from the ROOF..BUT SHE WONT.."





Typical Wigan Rugby league fan

Sounds like a jolly good fellow!

ITV's punditry is laughable, we drew out first game in 1996 don't you know? England fully dominated the game, Gerrard and Lampard worked well in the middle, Green saved us the game - next it will be Rooney proved why he's one of the best in the world





I thought Johnson and Lennon did well at times, and Gerrard provided some drive from the middle. Terry, Cole and Heskey did exactly what you'd expect them to do but that was it as far as any kind of positives go everything else about the display was disappointing as far as I am concerned.

This is the same feller that said he isnt going to another Wigan RL game again until they get to a final

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees...



Well at least one England team won today.

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There'll be no point in dropping Green as James is 2nd choice and he's no better.The best Keeper we've got (Hart) is only 3rd choice and our 2nd best keeper (Robinson)is probably on a beach somewhere.My changes for the 2nd game would be Carragher if King is not fit and Barry in for Heskey and move Gerrard behind Rooney and finally Cole for Milner,swp was useless today and at least Cole will get some crosses in instead of turning inside all the time .

I thought that the USA dealt with Rooney too easily. Apart from a couple of touches with around 15 minutes to go he was useless. When he did get the ball his touch was off. Compare his performance with Messi's and you see how much we over-hype players here. Apart from Heskey (!) and Gerrard I thought we were poor.

Rooney had very poor service i thought. I also thought Messi was e, he should have scored at least 4, but bombed chance after chance. It also done my head in how the commentators kept saying how Messi meant to balls up. For example, when he put it just wide with a touch, he should have scored with. The commentators said he meant to knock it on to someone coming onto it, he didn't he, meant to score but put it wide. Every mistake he made, when he should have scored, he meant to not score he was trying to something else, when he wasn't. It was only because it was Messi, anyone else and they would have highlighted how e they was.

He just committed a ridiculous error which a schoolboy 'keeper would have been ashamed of.



These things happen, even to the very best 'keepers.



If we had one of the best 'keepers and he did that then you'd accept the screw-up, leave him in the side and move on, knowing he would be giving his all in the rest of the tournament aiming to atone for his error. But Green isn't one of the best 'keepers, he was lucky to be given the place and he let it slip through his hands. Unless England suffer a GK injury Green's involvement in the WC should be over today.