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 Post subject: Re: Summer football chat
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:07 pm 
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Nemanja wrote:Just ignore him...


It was like a cat toying with a mouse. :twisted:

Nemanja wrote:Is any player? This is the modern day market...


Completely agree.

Good piece from Phil McNulty on the BBC's site, I thought.
Nemanja wrote:Just ignore him...


It was like a cat toying with a mouse. :twisted:

Nemanja wrote:Is any player? This is the modern day market...


Completely agree.

Good piece from Phil McNulty on the BBC's site, I thought.






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carl_spackler wrote:O'Neill at Villa to do the job? Could be an excellent replacement for Barry IMO.


Yeah, somebody like that. Big arm around him, go and do your best son. Bit like when Bobby got Jenas playing well at Newcastle, he made 'JJ' feel like he was the best player in the world. Huddlestone has so much ability, his weight od pass, and his ability to spot a pass are as good as anything in the Premiership, he's played very well in central defence, so has that attribute to his game which you need in midfield, but he can't put it all together seemingly.

He needs to go to a side that play football, then they sort of play around him, not that he's Riquelme or anything, I don't mean that they should build a side around him, more that if you got the right blend in midfield, to compliment him, it'd work, West Ham would be good for him, maybe him Parker & Collison say, or as you say Villa, with Petrov & Reo Coker in a three.

Daft as this soundsm he'd probably look immense at Arsenal.

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Ian [77] wrote:Tevez is a great signing for city. He's a mercenary, but then again, they all are to a certain extent - that's part of being a professional. What he is above everythig else, is a bloody hard working mercenary. It'll be interesting to see how he works with Adebayor.

Fascinating to see how city go next year. Is it going too far to say that 5th next season would be a failure?


What do they think Adebayor will do that Santa Cruz doesn't ? (Apart from play)

It's just like for like, granted Santa Cruz is probably a better targetman. Somebody is going to get the Kezman/Crespo treatment, and they ain't going to like it.

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Karlos13 wrote:Anyone find it strange that Ferguson said £32m for 21 year old Benzema is over-priced, despite having £105m to spend and paying £30m for an older player in Berbatov less than a year ago. Don't suppose he can come out and admit we're not allowed to spend the Ronaldo money though.


One of the best things that Fergie can do is say that the Ronaldo fee has gone on debt reduction. That will mean clubs won't automatically jack up their already inflated prices by another 10m when United come knocking.

It's not strange that Fergie is claiming Benzema is overpriced at 32m, it's probably just a tactic to drive down the price to something like 25m.

Like every manager, just because he says something it doesn't make it true. Fergie has said in the past that there'd be no new signing and then gone out on a shopping spree. Managers all the time say they'll sell 4 and buy 4, and then buy 3 players with none going out. You don't show your cards to everyone, you just bluff about your cards and make everyone guess.

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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:One of the best things that Fergie can do is say that the Ronaldo fee has gone on debt reduction. That will mean clubs won't automatically jack up their already inflated prices by another 10m when United come knocking.

It's not strange that Fergie is claiming Benzema is overpriced at 32m, it's probably just a tactic to drive down the price to something like 25m.

Like every manager, just because he says something it doesn't make it true. Fergie has said in the past that there'd be no new signing and then gone out on a shopping spree. Managers all the time say they'll sell 4 and buy 4, and then buy 3 players with none going out. You don't show your cards to everyone, you just bluff about your cards and make everyone guess.


Did he not have half a point ? What has Benzema actually done. Berbatov was at least proven in the Premiership. Plenty have had their fingers burnt signing folk from Ligue 1, Bellion looks decent in that league. Johan Elmander hardly lit up the Premiership last year, neither did Cheyrou and countless others from years gone by.

If you're forking out £3m for Obertan or £31m for Benzema, it's a pretty big outlay if you're not 100% sure how he'll adapt to the Premiership, the pyhsicality of it etc. Even folk who you think would be suited to the Premierhsip struggle, like say, Ryan Babel.

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OrdsallRed wrote:On the Tevez deal...do City now own him or is he still the property of that Joorabchian shyster??


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 Post subject: Re: Summer football chat
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:
It's not strange that Fergie is claiming Benzema is overpriced at 32m, it's probably just a tactic to drive down the price to something like 25m.


This would've been a great tactic if he hadn't already signed for Madrid for the figure quoted. :lol:

I agree about the possibilty of Fergie just calling the bluff by saying there will be no more signings, but I just can't see us signing anyone.

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[quote="Mintball"]It was like a cat toying with a mouse. :twisted:

Really? :shock:

For the record,the £35m I was referring to would have been the price United forked out for loan fees and the transfer asking price.£35m.HTH.

I`ll quit now while you`re all ahead.lol. :roll:

PS.Think the Argentina stat is something like 8 goals in 48 or so games.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer football chat
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JWP wrote:Did he not have half a point ? What has Benzema actually done. Berbatov was at least proven in the Premiership. Plenty have had their fingers burnt signing folk from Ligue 1, Bellion looks decent in that league. Johan Elmander hardly lit up the Premiership last year, neither did Cheyrou and countless others from years gone by.

If you're forking out £3m for Obertan or £31m for Benzema, it's a pretty big outlay if you're not 100% sure how he'll adapt to the Premiership, the pyhsicality of it etc. Even folk who you think would be suited to the Premierhsip struggle, like say, Ryan Babel.


TBH I'd assumed that Benzema was a Man United target when I wrote the post. Just seen that he's already signed for Real.

If Real have overpaid for him then who really GAF? If Man United weren't interested in him then why would Fergie care what his price is? If Man United were interested in him, then a bidding war between MU and RM is obviously going to dramatically push up the price. Fergie will be right to refuse to refuse to spend silly money, but if he was interested then there's obviously strong potential there.

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