God forbid you're actually looking at things sensibly...

I can't even remember saying we were going to win anything neither, just loving the fact we tanned the Yorkies hide twice in 4 days!!!...we're Lancs fans, we never expect to win anything!!

Back to championship cricket and here comes the rain At least it seems to be raining everywhere so we're not losing out too much.

Lancs have started today 73-1 at lunch.There's a chance to go top as Notts have no play again today.

Good old go slow Joe (Sayers) batting half a day for 29 runs, Bah! who needs T20 for excitement?

A similarly exciting day at OT today. Saved the draw, mind.

Looks like a promising start by Rafiq.

Aye, if Rashid doesn't make the breakthrough into the England side on a regular basis, then it's going to be an interesting dilemma for Yorkshire. Do they start producing dry, turning pitches and play two out of Rashid, Rafiq and Wainwright at the expense of someone like Kruis or Hoggard?

The long-term view of things would say develop pitches that will help you win more matches and develop your most promising youngsters at the same time...but on the other hand you need some older, more experienced players to help them develop as well...I'd like to see youth given it's chance as I think it is at more and more counties now, which has to be a good thing for the depth of the CC and for the future England team.

Makes sense, but this is England.

Our prevailing spirit of fair play usually means we end up producing pitches that best suit the opposition.