FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Other Sports Super Cricket - England vs India



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 133 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 14  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket - England vs India
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:22 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: May 31 2005
Posts: 4064
Location: An exclusive mansion apartment in fashionable South London
Asim wrote:Broad has been England cricket's golden boy for a long time, he showed signs in 2009 that he was about to justify the faith and hype, but he'd gone backwards since then IMO.

With regard to this test I think the trio of Anderson, Tremlett and Bresnan gave the seam attack great balance and variety Down Under and deserve the chance to have first crack at the Indians - the fact we have a few options if it doesn't work out is a very good position for us to be in.

I agree with all of that. I remember being at Colchester for Surrey v Essex on the day Broad skittled the Aussies at The Oval and the crowd cheering every wicket as news came through. He seemed to have cracked it, but now he's beginning to resemble a bowling version of Ramprakash or Hick, except instead of being dropped then recalled on county form he just never gets dropped! I even found myslef agreeing with Kent fans in a conversation at The Oval last week, and that's saying something!


Broad originally lost his place to Tremlett through injury, then when Finn was dropped for Bresnan one match later we seemd to have hit upon the perfect unit, winning the last two Tests by an innings and plenty.

Alright, that was on the other side of the world in different conditions and Bresnan, as well as Anderson briefly, have had spells out injured since, but it just seems like the selectors can't wait to ink Broad's name in on the teamsheet. For what it's worth we clinched the ODI series after he'd been "rested", yet it seems he only has to bowl in the nets after injury or take a couple of county wickets after a loss of form to get back in.

Andy Gilder wrote:I'm assuming if Bresnan gets released back to Yorkshire tomorrow morning they can use him to replace Wardlaw in the Roses game? That's my understanding of the rules anyway...

I'm not sure how this works any more, and I think it's a bit of a farce. In an ideal world this round of county matches would start a day after the Test (and finish on the same day) so the England twelfth man could comfortably join his county and the ECB could potentially upset the tourists by summoning a gymnastic whippet from a local second XI to act as substitute fielder for England, but the fixture list is such a mess at the moment we have matches taking place on all sorts of random days of the week.

Personally i feel replacements to the XI should only be allowed if a member of the original XI is summoned as an injury replacement for England, as Jade Dernbach was a few weeks ago. In fact even under those circumstances I'd be inclined to suggest England should just have to pick someone else not already involved in a match.

If someone isn't available when a match starts that's just tough. There was a ridiculous situation a few weeks back when Warwickshire picked William Porterfield and Boyd Rankin for a Championship match in the full knowledge they were required to fly to Ireland for a couple of ODIs (against Pakistan I think?) after day one, and they were still allowed two full replacements.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket - England vs India
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:26 pm 
International Board Member
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Aug 03 2002
Posts: 7496
Location: LEEDS
Agree with all that above, and it's just reminded me of the lightning quick Gary Pratt running out Ponting in 2005! It may have been unethical but it was certainly sweet!






Temptation, greets you like your naughty mate,
The one that used to get you in bother,
But one that you could never bring yourself to hate.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket - England vs India
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:51 am 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: May 31 2005
Posts: 4064
Location: An exclusive mansion apartment in fashionable South London
Matt23 wrote:Agree with all that above, and it's just reminded me of the lightning quick Gary Pratt running out Ponting in 2005! It may have been unethical but it was certainly sweet!

That specific incident wasn't unethical as Pratt was on the field for Simon Jones, who was clearly injured and took no further part in that game or any other for England since. If you're allowed a substitute fielder you might as well pick a good one.

However the practice of substituting fast bowlers with a "specialist" fielder so they can have a rest / ice bath is well dodgy. I think there was a proposal recently to abolish "runners" for injured batsmen - after all, when bowlers are injured you just have to manage with one bowler less. I'm all for that, and I'd go further by not allowing members of the fielding XI to return to the field for the duration of that innings if they've been replaced by a substitute, and not allowing them to bat higher than 7 in their next innings. If someone wants to go off for a breather his team should have to manage with ten men until he returns.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket - England vs India
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:03 pm 
International Board Member
International Board Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr 03 2003
Posts: 28186
Location: A world of my own ...
Is the rule still in place that says you are not permitted to bowl until you've been back on the field for the same duration you were off it?






"As you travel through life don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things" - George Carlin

//twitter.com/AndyGilder

//fromthewesternterrace.blogspot.co.uk

This week: Four keys to a Rhinos win in the WCC

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket - England vs India
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:10 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: May 31 2005
Posts: 4064
Location: An exclusive mansion apartment in fashionable South London
Andy Gilder wrote:Is the rule still in place that says you are not permitted to bowl until you've been back on the field for the same duration you were off it?

I would imagine so. I'd forgotten about that TBH. I think you were allowed up to ten minutes off the field before that kicked in, or something like that.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket - England vs India
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:25 pm 
International Chairman
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Apr 19 2002
Posts: 16239
Hope golden boy does better with the ball than he has with the bat.

Great knock from Pietersen though, dug in and done the job the team needed from him.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket - England vs India
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:22 pm 
Club Owner
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 9673
Location: Hull
How has this India team got to no1 in test cricket with this bowling line up and fielding prowess? They are hopeless.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket - England vs India
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:53 pm 
Club Owner
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Mar 03 2004
Posts: 5308
Location: On a hill above Mold, North Wales
Smiggs wrote:How has this India team got to no1 in test cricket with this bowling line up and fielding prowess? They are hopeless.


We're probably about to find out....

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket - England vs India
PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:24 pm 
Club Owner
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Mar 03 2004
Posts: 5308
Location: On a hill above Mold, North Wales
MSH wrote:We're probably about to find out....


Ok probably not, England's bowlers making some serious inroads here. Dare I mention India need 92 to avoid the follow on? :)

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket - England vs India
PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:45 pm 
Club Owner
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 9673
Location: Hull
MSH wrote:Ok probably not, England's bowlers making some serious inroads here. Dare I mention India need 92 to avoid the follow on? :)


They're a one dimensional team, completely reliant on their batsman scoring a shedload of runs. They can't bowl or field to save their lives.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 133 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 14  Next





It is currently Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:55 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 52 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:55 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
19m
Jerome Luai
The Whiffy K
20
23m
Film game
karetaker
5395
35m
Ground Improvements
Eastern Wild
132
46m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40608
48m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
63101
49m
Accounts
Highlander
129
58m
2025 Season tickets
PopTart
213
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Manheim
476
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
NSW
28881
Recent
Keith Hepworth passes away
Huddersfield
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Season pass roll call
The Dentist
34
2m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40608
3m
Film game
karetaker
5395
4m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
34
5m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
63101
7m
Squad 2025
the fax in a
43
9m
Betting 2025
karetaker
21
9m
Season tickets
Neruda
6
11m
Rumours and signings v9
NSW
28881
16m
Paladin Sports
Victor
20
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Keith Hepworth passes away
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Misi Taulapapa
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Season tickets
Neruda
6
TODAY
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
Armavinit
13
TODAY
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
TODAY
Merry Christmas
orangeman
7
TODAY
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Huddersfield
9
TODAY
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
removing posts
Dannyboywt1
10
TODAY
Season pass roll call
The Dentist
34
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Zig
4
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Jimmythecuck
2
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
34
TODAY
Gary Schofield
hull2524
10
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Ben Dent
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Callum Rutland
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Harry Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jack Aldous
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1052
England's Women Demolish The W..
900
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1129
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
927
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1189
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1718
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1969
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2219
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1789
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2029
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2489
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1935
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2020
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2206
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2331
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
19m
Jerome Luai
The Whiffy K
20
23m
Film game
karetaker
5395
35m
Ground Improvements
Eastern Wild
132
46m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40608
48m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
63101
49m
Accounts
Highlander
129
58m
2025 Season tickets
PopTart
213
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Manheim
476
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
NSW
28881
Recent
Keith Hepworth passes away
Huddersfield
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Season pass roll call
The Dentist
34
2m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40608
3m
Film game
karetaker
5395
4m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
34
5m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
63101
7m
Squad 2025
the fax in a
43
9m
Betting 2025
karetaker
21
9m
Season tickets
Neruda
6
11m
Rumours and signings v9
NSW
28881
16m
Paladin Sports
Victor
20
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Keith Hepworth passes away
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Misi Taulapapa
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Season tickets
Neruda
6
TODAY
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
Armavinit
13
TODAY
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
TODAY
Merry Christmas
orangeman
7
TODAY
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Huddersfield
9
TODAY
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
removing posts
Dannyboywt1
10
TODAY
Season pass roll call
The Dentist
34
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Zig
4
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Jimmythecuck
2
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
34
TODAY
Gary Schofield
hull2524
10
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Ben Dent
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Callum Rutland
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Harry Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jack Aldous
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1052
England's Women Demolish The W..
900
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1129
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
927
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1189
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1718
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1969
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2219
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1789
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2029
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2489
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1935
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2020
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2206
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2331


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.