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dave1612 wrote:Just a quick piece of news really, the word is that he has set his sights on playing 15 first team games next season. If that doesn't happen, then he will be looking for a new club at the end of the 2010 season.

Rogues Gallery wrote:If that's his attitude then he may as well go now.

Only the coaching staff will determine who plays and when.

Cruncher wrote:We asked the question a few days ago who would be the first player not to respond positively to the new regime, and it looks like we may have an answer already. Much sooner than I thought.

DaveO wrote:I remember reading similar statements from Sam Tomkins prior to this season in an article in the Wigan Observer.

IIRC he said something along the lines of it was a make or break season for him at Wigan or words to that effect.

Can't remember exactly but you can take statements like this two ways. It can be taken as you have taken it, as a sign of bad attitude or it can be taken as a sign of ambition.

If Sam Tomkins had not got 15 or more games this season would you have been surprised if he had decided to leave?

Both players are of an age where they need to be in the first team more than they are out of it.

Don't be so quick to assume he is demanding games as opposed to being ambitious. It's getting a bit tiresome that people taking any news re Ainscough as a sign of problems.

We had the speculation over the wrist injury and how he got that, we have had recently rumours the reason Nobby was supposed not to like him was down to his attitude and now this news gets taken in a negative way. It's ridiculous IMO.

If he had as bad an attitude as this he would already no longer be a Wigan player.

Is he the new scapegoat for 2010?

Dave

DaveO wrote:Is he the new scapegoat for 2010?

Author:	dave1612 [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:22 am ]
Post subject:	Ainscough
Just a quick piece of news really, the word is that he has set his sights on playing 15 first team games next season. If that doesn't happen, then he will be looking for a new club at the end of the 2010 season.

Author:	lothlorian [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:27 am ]
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dave1612 wrote:Just a quick piece of news really, the word is that he has set his sights on playing 15 first team games next season. If that doesn't happen, then he will be looking for a new club at the end of the 2010 season. cant blame the lad really

Author:	Grimmy [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:28 am ]
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That all depends on form and injuries. I'd hope that one of the things McGuire will keep an eye on in the pre season friendlies is which of Ainscough and Roberts performs better, hopefully it will start as a level competition between the two with reputation not coming into it. I'm not saying Ainscough should start the first game of the year with Roberts in the reserves but he should definitely have a fair shot at doing so.

Author:	Rogues Gallery [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:29 am ]
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If that's his attitude then he may as well go now. Only the coaching staff will determine who plays and when.

Author:	Cruncher [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:32 am ]
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Rogues Gallery wrote:If that's his attitude then he may as well go now. Only the coaching staff will determine who plays and when. I agree aboslutely. We asked the question a few days ago who would be the first player not to respond positively to the new regime, and it looks like we may have an answer already. Much sooner than I thought. Now is definitely not the time for Ainsough to be doing 'a Nicky Stanton', and getting uppity about how many first team games he expects to play. That is definitely NOT the way it works.

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Author:	Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:41 am ]
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Rogues Gallery wrote:If that's his attitude then he may as well go now. Only the coaching staff will determine who plays and when. Agreed. Just play him in 14 to make a point.

Author:	DaveO [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:44 am ]
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Rogues Gallery wrote:If that's his attitude then he may as well go now. Only the coaching staff will determine who plays and when. I remember reading similar statements from Sam Tomkins prior to this season in an article in the Wigan Observer. IIRC he said something along the lines of it was a make or break season for him at Wigan or words to that effect. Can't remember exactly but you can take statements like this two ways. It can be taken as you have taken it, as a sign of bad attitude or it can be taken as a sign of ambition. If Sam Tomkins had not got 15 or more games this season would you have been surprised if he had decided to leave? Both players are of an age where they need to be in the first team more than they are out of it. Don't be so quick to assume he is demanding games as opposed to being ambitious. It's getting a bit tiresome that people taking any news re Ainscough as a sign of problems. We had the speculation over the wrist injury and how he got that, we have had recently rumours the reason Nobby was supposed not to like him was down to his attitude and now this news gets taken in a negative way. It's ridiculous IMO. If he had as bad an attitude as this he would already no longer be a Wigan player. Is he the new scapegoat for 2010? Dave

Author:	DaveO [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:47 am ]
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Cruncher wrote:We asked the question a few days ago who would be the first player not to respond positively to the new regime, and it looks like we may have an answer already. Much sooner than I thought. Another one jumping to conclusions! Someone posts that Ainscough has set his sights on playing 15 games and in the space of two posts he has become the first player not to respond to the new regime. This is completely insane! Dave

Author:	JTB [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:50 am ]
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DaveO wrote:I remember reading similar statements from Sam Tomkins prior to this season in an article in the Wigan Observer. IIRC he said something along the lines of it was a make or break season for him at Wigan or words to that effect. Can't remember exactly but you can take statements like this two ways. It can be taken as you have taken it, as a sign of bad attitude or it can be taken as a sign of ambition. If Sam Tomkins had not got 15 or more games this season would you have been surprised if he had decided to leave? Both players are of an age where they need to be in the first team more than they are out of it. Don't be so quick to assume he is demanding games as opposed to being ambitious. It's getting a bit tiresome that people taking any news re Ainscough as a sign of problems. We had the speculation over the wrist injury and how he got that, we have had recently rumours the reason Nobby was supposed not to like him was down to his attitude and now this news gets taken in a negative way. It's ridiculous IMO. If he had as bad an attitude as this he would already no longer be a Wigan player. Is he the new scapegoat for 2010? Dave Spot on - some serious gun jumping further up the page from an unsubstantiated post on a forum. Lenegan actually mentioned the 15 games at the shareholders meeting so it's likely not come from Ainscough at all. Let's not be so hasty to point the finger at players - and young, keen and talented players at that.

Author:	thepriestman85 [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:56 am ]
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DaveO wrote:Is he the new scapegoat for 2010? I always think along of the lines of there is 'no smoke without fire'. Ainscough has a previous history of 'attitude problems' so it’s understandable why this has been taken the way it has. Remember as well this isn’t a press release like Sam’s was this is from word of mouth as well which makes it a lot worse.

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