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Post subject: Sean Gleeson

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:08 pm

RICHARD5LEGEND

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http://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Youngsters-can-fire-Warriors-back.5215710.jp

Some interesting things hes said there...

Quote:It was pretty demoralising for the Under-21s when I was there as people thought they weren't getting any chances.

Anyone know whos still at the club from when he was in the U21's and who left around that time?

Just hope players like Mossop/Farrell/Thornley etc dont end up feeling the same..

http://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Youngsters-can-fire-Warriors-back.5215710.jp

Some interesting things hes said there...

Quote:It was pretty demoralising for the Under-21s when I was there as people thought they weren't getting any chances.

Anyone know whos still at the club from when he was in the U21's and who left around that time?

Just hope players like Mossop/Farrell/Thornley etc dont end up feeling the same..

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:48 pm

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Made about 30 apps in 2005/06 so probably Millward...

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:35 am

ABP'

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It's true.

Instead of promoting juniors, we decided to sign Jordan James, Tim Jonkers, Oliver Wilkes and Liam Botham...But I wonder which Australians he's refering to?

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:46 am

cadoo

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Quote:"It is massively positive that we are seeing this because when I was there, in Brian Noble's first year, we were nearly getting relegated.
"Yet players were getting picked in front of me who weren't playing that well while I was playing well in the Under-21s.

"It felt like they were getting picked just because they were Australian.
"I reached a point where I decided I'd had enough.
"I couldn't get to see when I was going to get a break so I told the club I fancied a change.

"I just knew I had to leave to get first-team rugby and I have played first-team rugby almost ever since.
"It was the right move for me to leave Wigan and I love it at Wakefield but I am glad to see things finally changing at the JJB.

He will be most likely referring to Ian Millward.

But I get the feeling this applies to Darrell Goulding big time.

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:24 am

Andy Greg

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cadoo wrote:He will be most likely referring to Ian Millward.

But I get the feeling this applies to Darrell Goulding big time.

As he also says in Nobles first year we were fighting relegation and he had to pick his most experienced squad. Can you imagine the uproar on here if he had picked youngsters and we would have gone down due to there mistakes. and he was also trying to put some structure in the youth setup which we had been neglecting over the past 8 or so years.

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:10 am

jinkin jimmy

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Alex BP' wrote:It's true.

Instead of promoting juniors, we decided to sign Jordan James, Tim Jonkers, Oliver Wilkes and Liam Botham...But I wonder which Australians he's refering to?

This is wrong. All these are forwards so none of them were keeping Gleeson out. Plus, as you say, he refers to "australians". Plus he specifically says it was during the Noble era. Plus who are the youngsters we could have played in the pack? Tomkins, O'Carroll and Prescott were about 17-19 then and nowhere near ready for anything more than a couple of games a season. Also, weren't both Lockers and Hock injured during this time?

Millward got lots of things wrong and may even have been guilty of not giving Gleeson a chance (not sure here TBH) but not for the reasons you have given.

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:15 am

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I'm afraid Gleeson suffered from the same problem that Kevin Brown and to some extent Chris Ashton did.

They got into the first team and thought they had "made" it. They should have realised that they were just on the first rung of the ladder.

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:16 am

wigan_knight

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No Sean you cant come back :wink:

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:17 am

Andy Greg

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jinkin jimmy wrote:Millward got lots of things wrong and may even have been guilty of not giving Gleeson a chance (not sure here TBH) but not for the reasons you have given.

To be fair he was the one to give Gleeson a chance it was at Salford and a sky game but i think it was more of a publicity stunt more than anything. Like when he played Scott Moore in the Good Friday game to make him the youngest player to play in Super League

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:36 am

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Andy Greg wrote:To be fair he was the one to give Gleeson a chance it was at Salford and a sky game but i think it was more of a publicity stunt more than anything. Like when he played Scott Moore in the Good Friday game to make him the youngest player to play in Super League

Millward played Gleeson at fullback in the 75 - 0 Cup game at Saints, despite Gleeson never having played there in his rugby career.