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Batesy wrote:Over the past few weeks, alot of people have been calling for Tommy to drop into 9, with Sam and Smith at 7 and 6 respectively.

Well, I think Noble did this yesterday, and if I'm honest I was relieved when Tommy went off and Riddell came back on at the end, their distribution was pretty much the same, but I didn't really see any darting runs from Tommy and I didn't think he offered us that much going forwards.

Any thoughts?

[Gareth] wrote:2 points:

1. Tommy is our best SH
2. Tommy is a world cup winning hooker

until we get someone of equal or better ability to replace him at SH then he cant move

- Neil - wrote:Your right on looking at previous form but potentially Smith (when he proves he can tackle) and Tomkins (when he developes a bit more) are better SH than Tommy.

[Gareth] wrote:Tomkins definately but im not convinced about smith and im pretty sure he wont be here after this year anyway.

Author:	Batesy [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:56 pm ]
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Over the past few weeks, alot of people have been calling for Tommy to drop into 9, with Sam and Smith at 7 and 6 respectively. Well, I think Noble did this yesterday, and if I'm honest I was relieved when Tommy went off and Riddell came back on at the end, their distribution was pretty much the same, but I didn't really see any darting runs from Tommy and I didn't think he offered us that much going forwards. Any thoughts?

Author:	Odem [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:59 pm ]
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Batesy wrote:Over the past few weeks, alot of people have been calling for Tommy to drop into 9, with Sam and Smith at 7 and 6 respectively. Well, I think Noble did this yesterday, and if I'm honest I was relieved when Tommy went off and Riddell came back on at the end, their distribution was pretty much the same, but I didn't really see any darting runs from Tommy and I didn't think he offered us that much going forwards. Any thoughts? I was not at the game yesterday as I did not make it back from holiday in time, but from what I have seen of tommy at hooker he has been pretty good, better than McIlorum.

Author:	Cruncher [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:11 pm ]
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My view is that Tommy is better at 9 than McIlorum. This won't be a popular view with those who feel that Wigan-born lads should be in the team at any cost. But I honestly feel that McIlorum now comes a poor 3rd in our hooking states, and in that respect I don't know what future he has at the club. I'd imagine, however, that IL and co will be loathe to let him go purely because of the criticism that would be again be heaped on us. A bit of a conundrum.

Author:	Rilo [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:12 pm ]
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Tommy was good at Scrum-Half yesterday, better than at hooker IMAO. Piggy started well then didn't really notice him - the 30m run did for him I think! McIlorum is a tough one. He seems to have the skills, but he's in and out of the side so it's difficult to get an idea of what he can do week-in, week-out.

Author:	[Gareth] [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:13 pm ]
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2 points: 1. Tommy is our best SH 2. Tommy is a world cup winning hooker until we get someone of equal or better ability to replace him at SH then he cant move

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Author:	- Neil - [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:17 pm ]
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[Gareth] wrote:2 points: 1. Tommy is our best SH 2. Tommy is a world cup winning hooker until we get someone of equal or better ability to replace him at SH then he cant move Your right on looking at previous form but potentially Smith (when he proves he can tackle) and Tomkins (when he developes a bit more) are better SH than Tommy.

Author:	[Gareth] [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:19 pm ]
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- Neil - wrote:Your right on looking at previous form but potentially Smith (when he proves he can tackle) and Tomkins (when he developes a bit more) are better SH than Tommy. Tomkins definately but im not convinced about smith and im pretty sure he wont be here after this year anyway.

Author:	Bill_Barlow [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:22 pm ]
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[Gareth] wrote:Tomkins definately but im not convinced about smith and im pretty sure he wont be here after this year anyway. Personally id keep Tommy Piggy McIlloram Tomkins and still go for a recognised 6 and let Tomkins make the 7 spot his over the space of a few seasons.

Author:	tyr [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:24 pm ]
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McIlorum has been very poor this season IMO. Everytime he comes on I find myself counting the minutes until Riddell gets back on, and given how little Riddell has offered that's quite damning. At the moment Riddell is coming off second best to Higham (despite the fact that Riddell's passing is clearly sharper and more incisive) because he is showing, at best, only glimpses of what he can do. That said, I still think Riddell will continue to improve, and the top of his game is better than the top of Mickey's. I would definitely only use Riddell and Lulu at the moment.

Author:	{Hogan} [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:25 pm ]
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[Gareth] wrote:Tomkins definately but im not convinced about smith and im pretty sure he wont be here after this year anyway. TL has agreed terms for his next contract at Wigan. I for one would like to see him stay.

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