Hoofer wrote:I am a born and bred pie-eater and have been following Wigan since 1965.
My old mum, who is 75, made an 80 mile round trip last night to watch the game. She wasn't impressed.
I do not know anyone who works at the club these days, so what I say is purely speculation.
However, to an outsider there seems to be an air of complacency about the club.
From the coach with no plan B
From the load of second rate antipodean alleged boozers recruited for the team.
From the apparent lack of marketing skills, i.e. team shirts not available at the start of the season-how incompetent is that?
Even down to the small stuff like closing the toilets before people leave......
Everything says second best is good enough. We used to be great but we don't care anymore.
I get the feeling that without some sort of clear-out nothing will change.
As I say, pure speculation, but do I have a point?

Hoofer wrote:I am a born and bred pie-eater and have been following Wigan since 1965.
My old mum, who is 75, made an 80 mile round trip last night to watch the game. She wasn't impressed.
I do not know anyone who works at the club these days, so what I say is purely speculation.
However, to an outsider there seems to be an air of complacency about the club.
From the coach with no plan B
From the load of second rate antipodean alleged boozers recruited for the team.
From the apparent lack of marketing skills, i.e. team shirts not available at the start of the season-how incompetent is that?
Even down to the small stuff like closing the toilets before people leave......
Everything says second best is good enough. We used to be great but we don't care anymore.
I get the feeling that without some sort of clear-out nothing will change.
As I say, pure speculation, but do I have a point?

Hoofer wrote:I am a born and bred pie-eater and have been following Wigan since 1965.
My old mum, who is 75, made an 80 mile round trip last night to watch the game. She wasn't impressed.
I do not know anyone who works at the club these days, so what I say is purely speculation.
However, to an outsider there seems to be an air of complacency about the club.
From the coach with no plan B
From the load of second rate antipodean alleged boozers recruited for the team.
From the apparent lack of marketing skills, i.e. team shirts not available at the start of the season-how incompetent is that?
Even down to the small stuff like closing the toilets before people leave......
Everything says second best is good enough. We used to be great but we don't care anymore.
I get the feeling that without some sort of clear-out nothing will change.
As I say, pure speculation, but do I have a point?

Hoofer wrote:I am a born and bred pie-eater and have been following Wigan since 1965.
My old mum, who is 75, made an 80 mile round trip last night to watch the game. She wasn't impressed.
I do not know anyone who works at the club these days, so what I say is purely speculation.
However, to an outsider there seems to be an air of complacency about the club.
From the coach with no plan B
From the load of second rate antipodean alleged boozers recruited for the team.
From the apparent lack of marketing skills, i.e. team shirts not available at the start of the season-how incompetent is that?
Even down to the small stuff like closing the toilets before people leave......
Everything says second best is good enough. We used to be great but we don't care anymore.
I get the feeling that without some sort of clear-out nothing will change.
As I say, pure speculation, but do I have a point?

Johnny F wrote:Yes also

A chairman that seems to be a yes man, does not seem to have a back bone
A coach that won`t give local talent a chance.
very poor marketing skills in all respects
Players that don`t have any pride

where do we go from here as I don`t want my team to be the laughing stock of SL even though it happened at the end of last season.

Hoofer wrote:I am a born and bred pie-eater and have been following Wigan since 1965.
My old mum, who is 75, made an 80 mile round trip last night to watch the game. She wasn't impressed.
I do not know anyone who works at the club these days, so what I say is purely speculation.
However, to an outsider there seems to be an air of complacency about the club.
From the coach with no plan B
From the load of second rate antipodean alleged boozers recruited for the team.
From the apparent lack of marketing skills, i.e. team shirts not available at the start of the season-how incompetent is that?
Even down to the small stuff like closing the toilets before people leave......
Everything says second best is good enough. We used to be great but we don't care anymore.
I get the feeling that without some sort of clear-out nothing will change.
As I say, pure speculation, but do I have a point?

WigansForeignLegion wrote:Not sure about the coach being a yes man, he doesn't answer to anybody. If you mean the stadium and DW, remember that he's bound by contract, details of which we're not privvy to.