Signing tommorow...done deal.

This months milk delivery bill that is...

Amos is so proven and classy that his former club would sooner show him the door than re-new his contract.

Here we go again rating players off past performances. Nearly 10 games in and not one good performance from him.

And still none on here has named they're two starting wingers for our team.

Like it or not, he is proven - in a much tougher league than ours.

Our two starting wingers: Roberts and Ainscough. Richards is now at full-back. Especially if Mathers goes to Warrington.

But we play in the SL not the NRL, and nearly 10 games in and nothing.

Need to be tougher with these players. This is half the problem.

Richards is no FB, would be better on the wing.

Roberts and Ainscough, Pat at FB. The two best wingers at Wigan are without doubt, the two aussies..

On current form yes Roberts isn't playing as well as Ainscough, but Ainscough is far too raw to win titles with. Amos Roberts outside a decent centre is first class, simple as.

History suggests that lots of aussie players take time to settle, Richards for a start.

Simple is it? Or just wishful thinking? Don't be so confident with predictions. I was excited with his arrival but I'm watching him live game after game, and i see a lack of effort and nothing special.

Just because a player does well in the NRL doesn't mean he's gonna do well over here.

You really aren't getting this are you......

Regardless of what your opinion is of him is the facts are;

-He’s a proven try scorer. Or has he turned into a bad player in two months?
-He’s on a four year deal at Wigan and he ain’t going anywhere mate so talk of a new FB and who is our best winger is worthless and a waste of time

Like I and others have said before it’s fine producing fancy lists saying ‘lets be realistic’ Hansen, O’Carroll etc are over rated and we need this position filling and this player should be let go cause it’s not going to happen. WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE PLAYERS WE’VE GOT. The players we’ve got are better than they are currently playing and for some reason seem to be going backwards instead of forwards and it can only be due to Noble methods.

No you're not getting it.

You sit on past performances and thats it.

I suppose Fielden is still the world's best prop.

Wing is very dependant on the centre. Offiah, Robinson, Dallas, they'd all look utterly pointless playing on the outside of Phil Bailey.

For the perfect example in reverse, just look at chuffing Gardner at Saints, playing on the outside of Gidley he scores plenty.

Hell, forgetting which hand they write with for a sec, if you put Ainscough outside Bailey he'd not have done a great deal so far either.