Joined: Jul 31 2007 Posts: 1350 Location: Fishing in Grimsby
AJ wrote:I agree, but that is the key word "Part". If he doesn't change things around and get Prescott/Tomkins and such involved and show the bottle to bin Phelps/Coley etc then yes, questions re his future should be asked, but this season with this squad, requires more time imo.
I agree Noble is part of the problem, not THE problem, IL also has a lot to answer for, has he got the player Nobby wanted (i'm guessing no), are Phelps, Coley, Roberts, Riddell, & Mathers really the players to take us forward. Where is Pryce & why can't we keep hold of the ball!!!
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AJ wrote:I agree, but that is the key word "Part".
I know, that's why I used the word. I knew it would not be lost on some!
Quote:If he doesn't change things around and get Prescott/Tomkins and such involved and show the bottle to bin Phelps/Coley etc then yes, questions re his future should be asked, but this season with this squad, requires more time imo.
It should not though certainly not 10 to 15 games. He doesn't seem to know his best team or how to use what he has got, which is not IMO a new problem with his coaching.
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jjb10 wrote:Lets face it boys & girls, we might hear we were out enthused, we disrespected the game, we didn't complete our sets, they where up for it that little bit more, the season isn't won in feb. Blah, Blah, Blah. The fact is to lose to a poor Hull side and a shocking Wakey side, we are in the poop. Riddell (injury or not) is poop, Phelps has not kicked on at all, & would the real Tim Smith please stand up. We still don't have that plan B when our predictable plan A does wrong.
I don't know if we have the answers at this point in time, I am that depressed it is frightening. This poop needs sorting out & quick if we lose 2 cas next week we might be looking at a bad, bad season. We either get S. Tomkins in to see what he can do or we get someone else in because, we are not creating or finishing enough chances and why the fook can't we keep hold of the fooking ball, this is really poop, poop, poop, poop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we completed most sets, we didnt loose that much ball, ok riddell hasnt kicked on yet hes in a new team different speeds, give the guy some time for god sake
As for tim smith i think you may have been watching a totally different game, the lad had a cracking game tonight some great attacking kicks ok one or two bad kicks but thats the way it goes, the reason we didnt win is because goulding didnt take his chances, the team played well dont think there was that much wrong, they got the luck of the bounce on a kick which lead to there try.
Joined: Jul 31 2007 Posts: 1350 Location: Fishing in Grimsby
Legend That Sorts It wrote:we completed most sets, we didnt loose that much ball, ok riddell hasnt kicked on yet hes in a new team different speeds, give the guy some time for god sake As for tim smith i think you may have been watching a totally different game, the lad had a cracking game tonight some great attacking kicks ok one or two bad kicks but thats the way it goes, the reason we didnt win is because goulding didnt take his chances, the team played well dont think there was that much wrong, they got the luck of the bounce on a kick which lead to there try.
My comment on Smith relates to his Jaykell & Hide style. But IMO I would keep Smith in the Xiii but play him @ 7, TL @ 9, and get a new 6.
DaveO wrote: He doesn't seem to know his best team or how to use what he has got, which is not IMO a new problem with his coaching.
I think he knows what his best team SHOULD be, the problems seem to stem from his reluctance to break from that when as now, it doesnt seem to be/isn't working.
AJ wrote:I think he knows what his best team SHOULD be, the problems seem to stem from his reluctance to break from that when as now, it doesnt seem to be/isn't working.
jjb10 wrote:My comment on Smith relates to his Jaykell & Hide style. But IMO I would keep Smith in the Xiii but play him @ 7, TL @ 9, and get a new 6.
Who would you bring in at 6 ? Not to many classy players about but Smith Played well tonight for you guys , TL has done a decent job at 9 before. Riddell should be nowhere near a wigan team or in SL.
Joined: Jul 31 2007 Posts: 1350 Location: Fishing in Grimsby
B0NES wrote:Who would you bring in at 6 ? Not to many classy players about but Smith Played well tonight for you guys , TL has done a decent job at 9 before. Riddell should be nowhere near a wigan team or in SL.
I hear that Dennis Moran is a good player!!!
I don't know some one to complement Smith, not sure who though that is Noble & IL job.
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WigansForeignLegion wrote:Jesting apart, Humberside coverage was as biased as GMR! Bet Dearden was having a fit, dire were just that 2nd half.
Excuse - We played last Sunday, haven't had enough time to recover and the wall pushed Humpty Dumpty off.
How dare you sir!..Humberside is renowned for its class act. All this giving Wigan grief............couldn`t the fact that Hull played quite well have something to do with it?
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barton baird wrote:How dare you sir!..Humberside is renowned for its class act. All this giving Wigan grief............couldn`t the fact that Hull played quite well have something to do with it?
Ah but you'd have to listen to GMR to know what I mean about them! Did sound like Hull played well, they had a 2nd half gameplan and, especially, fitness.
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