I am also frustrated but I just can't accept that the performance on Friday was effortless. I think the effort was there but the application wasn't. I also don't agree with people who say Wigan's plight is a result of the cap. That is rubbish. Wigan have a squad to rival most teams in the league and is certainly at least as good a Hudds, Cas and Wakefield. For me the issue is tactics and coaching. I am fed up with the same players making the same mistakes week after week . I can accept any player making a mistake but not the same mistake week after week and season after season.
The total lack of variation in play is a real worry and the buck has to stop at the door of BN. On Friday when Luke Robinson was sin binned the team still ploughed up the middle with little effect. Why have two good wingers and hardly use them! I feel sorry for Ainscough because he didn't receive any decent running opportunties all night and then he comes under criticism from some people when he made a mistake at the end.
I also don't accept that the players don't care and that there is a problem throughout the club. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the Reserves who played well against Hudds and won easily.
I don't think Wigan are far away from being a decent team but I am very frustrated that the little things that will make a big difference and just not being put right. Brian, my patience is running out!
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nohalfbacks wrote:I am also frustrated but I just can't accept that the performance on Friday was effortless. I think the effort was there but the application wasn't. I also don't agree with people who say Wigan's plight is a result of the cap. That is rubbish. Wigan have a squad to rival most teams in the league and is certainly at least as good a Hudds, Cas and Wakefield. For me the issue is tactics and coaching. I am fed up with the same players making the same mistakes week after week . I can accept any player making a mistake but not the same mistake week after week and season after season.
The total lack of variation in play is a real worry and the buck has to stop at the door of BN. On Friday when Luke Robinson was sin binned the team still ploughed up the middle with little effect. Why have two good wingers and hardly use them! I feel sorry for Ainscough because he didn't receive any decent running opportunties all night and then he comes under criticism from some people when he made a mistake at the end.
I also don't accept that the players don't care and that there is a problem throughout the club. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the Reserves who played well against Hudds and won easily.
I don't think Wigan are far away from being a decent team but I am very frustrated that the little things that will make a big difference and just not being put right. Brian, my patience is running out!
good post!
i think its a combination of everything, a team that is imo filled with a good few players that are average at best and a coach that is totally out of date!!
even if we had a decent side we'd still be way behind leeds/saints!
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Maybe I was seeing things, but on Friday we looked to have dummy runners and created a few overlaps with players coming from deep. It's been coming on for the last few weeks IMO, maybe BN has finally woken up
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On Friday when Wigan did spin it out wide with quick hands they scored two very good tries. So despite what is said about average players etc I strongly believe this team is fundamentally good enough to be up there, albeit not as good as Saints and Leeds but good enough to be beating most teams.
I have no doubt that things will improve as we approach the 'business end of the season' but as a season ticket holder I want to watch good rugby in March as well!
FLYINGPROP wrote:Enjoy the rest of your season but give credit to teams where credit is due
Congratulations on the start of the season and I hope Huddersfield do well this season.
However you will get no credit for the fashion in which you won on Friday. Huddersfield played very poorly and it is a damning indictment of Wigan's play if we lost to a side I thought played very poorly, what does that make us?
I can give credit when it is deserved but the game on Friday was a very 'safe' game of rugby league played in poor conditions which meant the only way through was from individual errors or penalties and Wigan's ill discipline proved to be their downfall again which as a fan is the most frustrating aspect of all.
But well done in grinding out a victory and hope your team improve in their next game.
andyed-wiganrl wrote:dont get me wrong im glad huddersfield are doing well, and hopefully your crowds will continue to grow.....as the birthplace of RL you are right in that we need huddersfield to be strong....and i hope you are the next club to break the 10k average barrier and break into the top 6.
However, what i am saying is that however well you are doing at the moment we ARE a top 4 club and should not be losing to teams full of poor to average players such as david hodgeson, martin aspinwall, luke robinson, olli wilkis, jason netheringotn etc. The reason we are is twofold and due to both our poor coaching and the salary cap.
What i want is a strong super league where teams like huddersfield are as strong as the traditional big clubs such as wigan, leeds, bradford, stains, & hull etc. but i want this to be acheived by teams like huddersfield rasing their standards, not by artificially reducing the standards at the top clubs so we get a dilluted poor competition. look at th bradford side this yearto see how that once great club has been crippled....they're full of average players that once played for wakefield / london etc.
Absolute rubbish, at least the players you have named are English/British rather than the 2nd rate Aussies/Overseas players teams like Wigan insist on signing, hence restricting players like Tomkins,Ainscough and the rest.
Would not swap Hodgeson, Aspinwall or Robinson for any of your lot currently.
If i was to marry, i dont know if i ought to, if i would, if i should , i'd marry a Prop's daughter, she'd go down, i'd go down, we'd all go down together, we'd be alright in the middle of the night going down together!!
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FLYINGPROP wrote:Absolute rubbish, at least the players you have named are English/British rather than the 2nd rate Aussies/Overseas players teams like Wigan insist on signing, hence restricting players like Tomkins,Ainscough and the rest.
Would not swap Hodgeson, Aspinwall or Robinson for any of your lot currently.
So you would rather have them then, Richards, Ainscough and Leuluai
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i think its a combination of everything, a team that is imo filled with a good few players that are average at best and a coach that is totally out of date!!
even if we had a decent side we'd still be way behind leeds/saints!
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jonh wrote:Now i have to say that i was not at the game tonight but my feelings about Wigan are at there lowest ebb in my time of following the club. The lethargy on the pitch has transmitted to me as a fan and to be perfectly honest my passion for the club is at its lowest point ever. I no longer look forward to the games and in addition to this I am no longer bothered about watching them, if there is another game which may provide more entertainment for my £.
I have always said i an a rubgy league fan prior to being a Wigan fan, and at the moment i see nothing of the qualites in the club that i grew to love the club for.
I am also no longer disappointed by a loss.
Am I alone in feeling like this? Not living in Wigan and having been attempted from one side of the family to follow another club rather than following Wigan being a birth right i wonder if i am alone with this feeling.
I do know i have seen the other club that was forced on me (Wakefield) play far worse rugby than i have ever seen Wigan play, but i still always looked forward to watching them, i hand on heart cannot say the same about Wigan anymore.
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