SuffolkCherryPie wrote:I'm not comparing stats at all. Just showing that for someone who was supposed to have been controlled/ contained he did pretty damn well. As for who would do better, nobody will ever know, and quite frankly who cares! Against the bigger teams I don't know if you can get those stats, but I'm not that bothered, we won the double, with him as our main attacking weapon.

Itchy Arsenal wrote:Aussies are just whinging tarts when it comes to Brits and would take any comments on any Brit with a pon full of salt.

Superted wrote:Yet Burgess, Ellis, Morley and Graham are seen as some of the most successful NRL signings - so that doesn't stack up.

Also, going further back, Schofield, Hanley, Offiah, Malcolm Riley (as a player and coach) and Stevo are just a few names that are held in high esteem by the Aussies - I really don't see how anyone can blame their thoughts on Tomkins on 'Pom bashing' - he was a monumental waste of money for the Warriors (for lots of different reasons - not all his fault) - he simply didn't perform to anywhere near his salary value!

Itchy Arsenal wrote:If you don't think Aussies are perennial whingers you must be an Aussie or smoke something particularly strong.
The Aussies couldn't give a shoite about Brits. Ask any Aussie regardless of age their top ten players of all time and very few would have a Brit in there. It's just in their DNA.
The first 4 you list are forwards which isn't a surprise. They love big daft forwards.
Offiah!! Aussies think wingers are a luxury. He wouldn't have got a game in most NRL teams.
Am I biased against Aussies? You bet I am.

Itchy Arsenal wrote:
If you don't think Aussies are perennial whingers you must be an Aussie or smoke something particularly strong.
The Aussies couldn't give a shoite about Brits. Ask any Aussie regardless of age their top ten players of all time and very few would have a Brit in there. It's just in their DNA.
The first 4 you list are forwards which isn't a surprise. They love big daft forwards.
Offiah!! Aussies think wingers are a luxury. He wouldn't have got a game in most NRL teams.
Am I biased against Aussies? You bet I am.

Superted wrote:You mean the Offish who did get games at the Roosters? Who scored a hatful of tries in a short stint and was generally accepted as one if the best wingers in the world... Or more recently, how about Brian Carney - voted Dally M winger of the year in his 1 season at Newcastle... Yeah they really hate Poms, and only like our big daft forwards....

Name a current player in the same bracket of expectation/salary that is more deserving of the 'worst signing' tag? You'll struggle.... He was signed as one o the top earners in the NRL and provided nothing like value for the salary and therefor expectation if him (not all his fault granted). nothing to do with Pom-bias, just pure value for money economics.

bazdev wrote:What about Anthony Watmough for Parramatta? What about Ben Barba for Brisbane and Cronulla? Tomkins is never in a million years the worst signing, at the end of season 1 he was being talked about being a success after a slow start, the second he wanted to leave he became the biggest flop ever.

Was he a roaring success - probably not, was he a massive flop - probably not, he was a decent signing playing in a poor side. The article calls his 48% win percentage. Very similar to Shaun Johnson, is he a flop also?

bazdev wrote:What about Anthony Watmough for Parramatta? What about Ben Barba for Brisbane and Cronulla? Tomkins is never in a million years the worst signing, at the end of season 1 he was being talked about being a success after a slow start, the second he wanted to leave he became the biggest flop ever.

Was he a roaring success - probably not, was he a massive flop - probably not, he was a decent signing playing in a poor side. The article calls his 48% win percentage. Very similar to Shaun Johnson, is he a flop also?