I agree a good sign will be if those two are released at the end of there contracts, it'll mean the club are no longer settling for one dimensional players. A backrow of Lockers, Joel and Mossop with Farrel on the bench sounds good for 2011.

Hock comes back half way through that year as well

I think we need Bailey for 1 more year now Hock is out, we need 1 experienced secondrow to lead that area.

It's such a tough one I've not doubt that were Hock still here Bailey would have definitely been let go at the end of this year but now I doubt it, the backrow that I named was for 2011 because I anticipated that there's a high probability that Bailey will be given a new deal, although it should only be one year anything else would be a mistake. So that come the end of 2010 we'd have Phelps, Bailey, Coley, Fielden, Feka and Presscot of the top of my head all of contract, so that gives us plenty of cash available for the positions we do need to recruit in.

I would agree but what is more important, a prop for next year? or an experienced average player?

I think we should get through next year with the experience of Hansen and Lockers in the backrow and sign a prop. Bailey's money should get us a very good prop.

I would hope we could bring in a good Prop and retain Bailey, may be too optomistic though.

If it were a choice between a top Prop and Bailey then I agree I would take a Prop every time.

If we re-sign Bailey doesn't that mean that we will have re-sign all of the players who were out of contract at the end of this season bar Smith?

If you look at each player individually you can make a case for re-signing them all. People have done this with Phelps, Coley and TL already.

The trouble is by doing this then collectively we end up with the same team as this years don't we and it has not been good enough has it?

Everybody has said we a need a classy rough house prop forward and so IMO one or more of some peoples "favourite" players out of the list of those we have re-signed should have been sacrificed in order to free up their wages to sign such a player.

Bailey is a classic case as with his and Hock's wages surely that would be enough to go for one real class player? In fact you probably would not need to spend all of it if Bailey is on as much as people seem to think.

The steady re-signing of our out of contract players this year bar Smith has left us with the same team for 2010 as this minus Smith and Hock.

That has got to mean we will be a worse side than this season particularly if Noble gets another year and sticks with playing the established players at every opportunity.

Dave

You are right, if we sign Bailey again we will have a worse team, but we would have to hope for a new coach and that some players will improve.

Hopefully we will sign a new prop and we will improve in the pack as this would also improve our backs.

The fact you highlighted we have resigned players based on personal performances is so true. TL is a good player and yes he will do the job but I can't help thinking tough decisions have to be made to run a RL club on a SC and maybe we would of been better letting more players go but only time will tell.

There's no doubt that if we go with the same squad next year as we have this then it will be a weaker squad, but what choice do we have. Lenegan's already said that it's highly unlikely we'll sign anyone plus those he supposedly looked at he felt were not right for the club, so what do we do. It's glaringly obvious as to the area's that we need to strengthen yet as far as were aware 2011 will be the earliest that anything is done, we've obviously resigned most of are off contract players on 1 year deals to me signalling a large overhaul come 2011, why then when we could use there money now I don't know.

One word...Fielden.