Joined: Oct 10 2004 Posts: 6124 Location: Still at the Top
ian-m wrote:Surely must have the money. Will he spend it though
Rumours of IL penny-pinching. It's none of my business, but you have to wonder if the recent financial downturn has affected IL in any way
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Warrington led 16-2 in Saturday's Grand Final, but their joy was short-lived as Wigan roared back to win the Super League title and extend the Wire's 58-year wait to be champions
If he's lost the dressing room then he has to go. Simple as that.
On a seperate note - when people were mentioning the player revolt in the Dorahey era. Do you think the home defeat to Widnes that spelt the end for Raper was something similar? I know from a good source at the time that the players wanted him out.
If he's lost the dressing room then he has to go. Simple as that.
On a seperate note - when people were mentioning the player revolt in the Dorahey era. Do you think the home defeat to Widnes that spelt the end for Raper was something similar? I know from a good source at the time that the players wanted him out.
I think he took the line, it's the players who provided that cr@p it's up to the players to put it right.
I saw Fekas reaction (West is best eh Alex) and he certainly wasn't pleased, but to me that was a positive reaction in that he is getting to he fitness levels many on here have been asking for.
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Rogues Gallery wrote:I think he took the line, it's the players who provided that cr@p it's up to the players to put it right.
I saw Fekas reaction (West is best eh Alex) and he certainly wasn't pleased, but to me that was a positive reaction in that he is getting to he fitness levels many on here have been asking for.
But thats no use if Nobles gonna bring him off.
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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are
Conroy wrote:If he's lost the dressing room then he has to go. Simple as that.
On a seperate note - when people were mentioning the player revolt in the Dorahey era. Do you think the home defeat to Widnes that spelt the end for Raper was something similar? I know from a good source at the time that the players wanted him out.
I think that was the same day that Whelan walked across the pitch as the players were warming up and started pointing the finger at the players basically telling them that they were playing for their future.
I might be wrong, but I'm sure that Raper was due to leave the club at the end of that season anyway and the club and Raper ''mutually'' agreed for him to leave.
I know he was fuming after the Whelan incedent and I was lead to believe that it was his decision more than anything.
Conroy wrote:If he's lost the dressing room then he has to go. Simple as that.
On a seperate note - when people were mentioning the player revolt in the Dorahey era. Do you think the home defeat to Widnes that spelt the end for Raper was something similar? I know from a good source at the time that the players wanted him out.
I think that was the same day that Whelan walked across the pitch as the players were warming up and started pointing the finger at the players basically telling them that they were playing for their future.
I might be wrong, but I'm sure that Raper was due to leave the club at the end of that season anyway and the club and Raper ''mutually'' agreed for him to leave.
I know he was fuming after the Whelan incedent and I was lead to believe that it was his decision more than anything.
Alex BP' wrote:I think that was the same day that Whelan walked across the pitch as the players were warming up and started pointing the finger at the players basically telling them that they were playing for their future.
I might be wrong, but I'm sure that Raper was due to leave the club at the end of that season anyway and the club and Raper ''mutually'' agreed for him to leave.
I know he was fuming after the Whelan incedent and I was lead to believe that it was his decision more than anything.
Joined: Oct 10 2004 Posts: 6124 Location: Still at the Top
Whelan walked onto the pitch once prior to a Wakefield fixture.
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Warrington led 16-2 in Saturday's Grand Final, but their joy was short-lived as Wigan roared back to win the Super League title and extend the Wire's 58-year wait to be champions
Quote:The same could be said of events at Wigan last week. The writing was on the wall for Stuart Raper as soon as the club's owner, Dave Whelan, came on to the field to deliver the pre-match talk for him and, sure enough, Raper announced that he was leaving at the end of the season.
Defeat by Widnes, however, was enough to change that timescale, and Raper was told that he was leaving with immediate effect. That gives an opportunity to his No 2, Mike Gregory, who has been put in charge, along with Denis Betts, until the end of the season - or until someone changes their mind.
Quote:The same could be said of events at Wigan last week. The writing was on the wall for Stuart Raper as soon as the club's owner, Dave Whelan, came on to the field to deliver the pre-match talk for him and, sure enough, Raper announced that he was leaving at the end of the season.
Defeat by Widnes, however, was enough to change that timescale, and Raper was told that he was leaving with immediate effect. That gives an opportunity to his No 2, Mike Gregory, who has been put in charge, along with Denis Betts, until the end of the season - or until someone changes their mind.
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