There have been some embarassing threads on here but this is the best. What on earth is the thread starter on about lmao

Do you remember that time Shaun Wane was laughing and joking about losing a game?? No me neither.

Why do the Wigan public boo Sam Tomkins and Josh Charnley??

Wakefield away when we lost 62 0.

Not sure what you mean by that, but you and everyone else knows that day was ridiculous. If he was laughing then it would have been the incredulous nature of the circumstances surrounding that day.

A defeat like that on Friday in those circumstances under Wane and you know for a fact what he would have been like.

I'm not one for calling for coaches heads, I think it was Nicky Kiss who mentioned that I tend to be one of the more patient types of fans.
But there are lots of things I dont like about Lam, not enough for me to want him sacked yet, but when people mention unproffesionalism aka the Hastings thread and blame players when the coach should be the single most important person setting those cultures then I will highlight it.

Early last year Lam criticised 3/4 different sets of people for losses, including senior players, nee players etc. And then I remember after the loss at Saints he said we did well until we went back to our old way of playing, referencing Wane imo, what was that way of playing? Winning?

At no point have I heard him talk about getting stuck into players, working harder at training, himself needing to work harder etc.

A couple of times this year weve been interviewed for TV and my mate BFUT in one pulled the pants down of a player, and in another was kicking a ball at Zak hadaker.
No way on earth does that happen under Wane IMO.

So that's were I don't buy into the Hastings bashing as such and anything to do with him being to ball.e for that loss.
IMO theres dozens of other things we need to be focussing on before worrying about whether a player shows too much respect to his old club in an interview.

Heres one from Lam from Friday
“We were fortunate enough to play tonight and give the fans the chance to watch the game, because who knows in the next month where we’re going to be.
“That’s why the performance was really important for us and to win, just in case we don’t play another game for a couple of weeks

And???

He was laughing in the box with several others. Didn't go down well with some but as you say different circumstances.

And another

A length of field Niall Evalds try - one of two four-pointers for the Red Devils’ all-time top Super League try scorer on the night - was a key turning point in the second half, and Lam hopes to see his side cutting out the intercepts that have led to a number of similar scores so far this season.

“For the fifth or sixth week in a row, we go for the grubber and they go full length of the field,” he reflected. “It’s happening to us every week. We threw two intercepts last week, one a couple of weeks before that, the kick intercept tonight; I think a little bit of bad luck went against us there.”

So it's just bad luck?
Were not going to do anything about it?
I commented 10mins before half time that wed had sloppy/unorganised and poor ends to 5 of the last 6 sets.

2nd half we do same thing again and have 3 or 4 bad ends to sets. Not just bad kicks as such, bad unorganised ends to sets.

1st game of season theres fans cheering because Tony Clubb chips on last and we get a repeat set.
What the F*** is he doing with ball in hand on last?

Budgie makes an 80 yard break and Marshall picks the ball up against 11/12 men and runs it directly to the only player Wire have back, we had no idea what to do!

Other examples in other games that led to last week against HKR 3 or 4 similar things happening and bad ends to sets or intercepts.

1st half we kicked 3/4 times really unorganised as if we didnt know what we were doing and ending up with Farrell kicking at one point, opposition get ball back and 1 tackle later they're 30/40/50 yards downfield. No control to end of sets.

2nd half at one point we end up going blind to Willie Isa!!!

We switch Isa who's right sided to left centre, why not Move Hankinson there? Let Isa continue on right.

And Lams answer is

"It’s happening to us every week. We threw two intercepts last week, one a couple of weeks before that, the kick intercept tonight; I think a little bit of bad luck went against us there"

No it's not bad luck, it's bad coaching and organisation
And he "Hopes" better be more like theyll be working damn hard to fix it!!!!! Not hoping it sorts itself out and rely on luck going our way.

Completely and utterly different circumstances
If Lam played Friday with 1/10th of the issues Wane had that day id maybe cut him some slack.

10 plus of those players that day if not more shouldnt have played.
As you've said privately (text) Wane said he wasn't worried and knew where we were, he was right, we won the GF.

The fans that were peed off maybe had no idea of the issues going on that week (I had a call on the Friday saying they couldn't see how game was going to go ahead there were that many going down sick), and I knew Sunday morning how bad the situation was and that the gamenshouldnt go ahead.

I think you told me about 20 minutes before the teams came out what the situation was and it was obvious the afternoon we were in for.

You're quite right that Wane wouldn't have been sharing a joke with the opposing coach after Friday, but I've sort of mellowed slightly now in terms of reacting to what coaches say and do in the press/public eye after what was said/done that season as well as other things.

It's all about what they do behind closed doors and how we as a team improve, which again you are right in saying that under Lam it just isn't. I would say that half the tries we have conceded this season have been directly from mistakes such as poor kicks, interceptions, forcing the ball. It should be fixed in training but doesn't appear to be.