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Katrina wrote:Agreed!
I'll be very disappointed if we allow Goulding to leave. There's really no reason to get rid, when we have the likes of Phelps at our club, who have already reached their potential.
If Tony Smith has decided he is willing to swap Gleeson for Goulding who do we trust to have the eye for the better deal, Tony Smith or Brian Noble?
Signing Gleeson and letting Goulding leave has short termism written all over it. No doubt Gleeson would improve the side somewhat (but by how much is debatable IMO) and it may be enough to keep Noble in his job which is perhaps what this is all about.
Dave
Last league derby at Central Park 5/9/1999: Wigan 28 St. Helens 20 Last league derby at Knowsley Road 2/4/2010: St. Helens 10 Wigan 18
DaveO wrote:If Tony Smith has decided he is willing to swap Gleeson for Goulding who do we trust to have the eye for the better deal, Tony Smith or Brian Noble?
Signing Gleeson and letting Goulding leave has short termism written all over it. No doubt Gleeson would improve the side somewhat (but by how much is debatable IMO) and it may be enough to keep Noble in his job which is perhaps what this is all about.
Dave
True and i think Smith will get something out of Goulding, but Noble obviously isn't managing too. So if Goulding staying here means he'll never improve, may as well trade him for Gleeson who may do a job for 2 season and look for a replacement after.
If Goulding goes and improves then good for him, he does have potential..just we're struggling to tap into it.
If Gleeson is here for 2 seasons, then we would probably need 2 centres that year if Carmont goes then aswell. I hope Noble and Lenegan have thought this through, if it does come off.
People are looking at it that if we let Goulding go that we are again neglecting youth but in fact by the time Gleeson goes in 2/3 years (if we get him of course) then Thornley will surely be ready
Maybe he could of replaced Carmont but I think he will want consistent first team footy by the time Carmont goes and he could get that elsewhere
Last Son of Wigan wrote:Can see Karmichaelcunt wanting a big chunk of the cap then flying off back to Oz after a year or two.
Step backwards if that is the case. Sooner have Myler or a true HB who Tomkins can learn from. restoring and working the cap is one thing IL has worked on, don't wanna undo one of the good things he's done for the club.
You can't seriously think Richie Myler could teach Sam ANYTHING? Sam is three times the player Myler is - not to mention OLDER than Myler.
kirkamania6 wrote:People are looking at it that if we let Goulding go that we are again neglecting youth but in fact by the time Gleeson goes in 2/3 years (if we get him of course) then Thornley will surely be ready
Maybe he could of replaced Carmont but I think he will want consistent first team footy by the time Carmont goes and he could get that elsewhere
Thornley ain't out special from what I've seen down at Pats and reserves, just big, but defence ain't upto much
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cherryandwhitedavid06 wrote:Thornley ain't out special from what I've seen down at Pats and reserves, just big, but defence ain't upto much
I'm not automatically presuming Thornley will be good enough because I don't see a lot of the reserve players but I think Thornley replacing Gleeson would be the plan anyway
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