Post subject: Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned…
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:27 pm
Mild Rover
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Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12647 Location: Leicestershire.
It’s a joke, but I don’t blame Wigan in the least. I’d want Rovers to do exactly the same if they were in this situation.
Nobody at the RFL ever seems to ask ‘what if…?’.
It’s almost worth clubs employing professional loophole specialists.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Post subject: Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned…
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:31 pm
Oafy
International Star
Joined: Sep 09 2012 Posts: 628
CJamesy wrote:What if you have injuries and only other option is to play someone who hasn’t played all year?
Yeh I get what you’re saying and I’m not having a pop it just seems mental that for arguments sake you’ve obviously earned the right for a week off but if matty peet decides he doesn’t want them to have the week off you could field your full 1st team in the reserves cup final
Post subject: Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned…
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:32 pm
MadDogg
Club Coach
Joined: Feb 21 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Leeds
Mild Rover wrote:It’s a joke, but I don’t blame Wigan in the least. I’d want Rovers to do exactly the same if they were in this situation.
Nobody at the RFL ever seems to ask ‘what if…?’.
It’s almost worth clubs employing professional loophole specialists.
But Wigan haven't done anything to exploit a 'loophole'. Come the playoff, the players are free to play. It's not as if Wigan have put in an application. Fans can complain but they can only complain at the system unless they're suggesting Wigan shouldn't pick players who are available to play.
Post subject: Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned…
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:00 pm
NickyKiss
International Board Member
Joined: Nov 08 2004 Posts: 29773 Location: WIGAN
The loophole has avoided any need for this to be called out but the Wigan Way Twitter account made a great point. If you finish places 1-2 and get a one game ban in the last weekly round, your player will miss a semi final because you don’t have an extra game to use it in. Teams finishing positions 3-6, would have their players available for a semi final because they have to play an extra fixture. It’s borderline punishing teams for playing well enough to finish top 2 and getting a week off. This ridiculous loophole needs closing but I also think that needs looking at. If your top 2 and get the week off, they should count that week as a game towards your ban IMO.
In short, it’s only fair the 3 lads will be available!
Post subject: Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned…
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:12 pm
ralvag
Club Captain
Joined: Apr 01 2020 Posts: 201
Let's have it right; its NOT a loophole, it's simply the rules. Been the same way since reserves were introduced, and we're far from the first to benefit from it. A perk of running a reserve team I suppose...maybe more should do it?
Post subject: Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned…
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:33 pm
Mild Rover
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Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12647 Location: Leicestershire.
I meant ‘loophole’ in the sense of an inadequacy in the rules rather than something that is outside the rules.
I sought to indicate that I don’t blame Wigan by explicitly saying I don’t blame Wigan.
Just so we have it right.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Post subject: Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned…
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:38 pm
thesaint71
Academy Player
Joined: Jul 05 2022 Posts: 183
NickyKiss wrote:We've at least got a reward for bothering then. Interesting to read Saint 71's comment above that only one player can do it. That isn't what the Rugby League journos are saying but we will see.
Post subject: Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned…
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:31 pm
Trainman
Club Captain
Joined: Feb 17 2016 Posts: 1855
NickyKiss wrote:We've at least got a reward for bothering then. Interesting to read Saint 71's comment above that only one player can do it. That isn't what the Rugby League journos are saying but we will see.
I fully expect the RFL will decide that none of them can use it for their bans as using the game would be against the spirit of the disciplinary process
Post subject: Re: French, Ellis and Hill banned…
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:04 pm
Pie Eyed
International Chairman
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 3420 Location: At the match with Aoife on my shoulders
thesaint71 wrote:Been told only one player can serve their ban in the reserve game
I think it's the other way around - Each player can only count 1 reserve fixture against his ban.
And they don't need to be included in the 21, as a banned player would not be named in the squad - Same as for a normal 1st team game. The coach doesn't have to leave himself short of a player in the squad, he just doesn't get to choose him for inclusion.
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