So when you say:

"Which fully supports the point I have been making regarding O'Loughlin's captaincy. ...However, the fact that the 'next best' candidate at the club presided over this debacle shows that there is no-one else at the club capable of taking the armband


You were not implying any criticism of TL's captaincy?

The point I was making was even if TL was a poor captain it says nothing about Lockers captaincy one way or the other.



I am not sure which coach would replace Noble either but it does not invalidate my opinion it is time for him to leave does it? Likewise just because you may argue there is no viable alternative to Lockers captaincy that is no reason to leave things as they are either. As to alternatives, TL is never one that ever crossed my mind. Of current players Fielden is the obvious choice IMO but while IL is recruiting if I were him I'd be looking for a leader as well.



Well as you weren't there coming to any conclusion is rather rash don't you think? You can only speculate as I can and if he was leading by example and the players did not respond that would back up what I have been saying all along and that is there are times when leading by example is not good enough. That, if you had not worked it out, was what was behind my question about was he leading by example.



I can see you are doing your usual and putting words into my mouth so you can argue against something I never said. If TL adopted Lockers approach to captaincy I could well imagine it being ineffective. However to suggest that I would therefore be singling out as a scape goat for the loss if that were the case is ridiculous.



There you go again making up a point to argue about. Where have I ever suggested there is anyone who "would impact so strongly on the team that they would, at a stroke, eliminate the kind of debacle we had yesterday"? I have not. So the above paragraph is irrelevant isn't it!

It is quite possible even with Faz like character as captain we would have lost. That doesn't mean it would not be preferable to have had such a person as captain does it?



And I suspect you will, as you always do, continue make things up so you can argue with yourself. As you have done here.

When did you ask me in the past who this mythical character was ? Had you done so you would have got the same reply as above. I have never suggested there is such a person who would have such an effect but that doesn't stop you indulging in a half page post having a go at me for something I have never said

Dave

So it took you all that post basically say "I basically complain about O'Loughlin although I have no viable alternative." Which has been my point all along.

P.S. I'm making the assumption that you were on drugs when you suggested Fielden!