SomersetSaint wrote:Ummmm how many more are there? Not sure today's crop of "Wigan RL Greats" is going to be in demand
Thus far the evidence would suggest more than Saints can produce.
I can't follow this up with a playful wink because I don't see the funny side of our next batch of youngsters now being targeted, while other clubs - those few who actually produce youngsters - seem to lead a charmed life.
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
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Cruncher wrote:Thus far the evidence would suggest more than Saints can produce.
I can't follow this up with a playful wink because I don't see the funny side of our next batch of youngsters now being targeted, while other clubs - those few who actually produce youngsters - seem to lead a charmed life.
Without wanting to make an anti Wigan point, it seems that players like the fabled Sam (I personally have no idea how good he is, or isn't) are being stifled at the club, with few, or no opportunities. Were he at Saints or Leeds, he would likely get more opportunity? It is wise therefore, for union clubs to target the Wigan youngsters ahead of other clubs, because they are far more likely to be disenchanted in the first place, and are therefore easier pickings? Plus, the dressing room unhappiness that is talked about on here, being boo'd by your own speccies, and the lack of any real prospect of silverware must make talented kids think seriously about going to pastures new.
Pemps and all, Jason has the 2007 England World Cup forwards coach looking after his pack, and he didn't do too badly.
He is a fiercely driven individual, as my mrs found out when she asked him a daft question once.
I wish him well, my only fear is that his own high standards may upset others, though it has to be said, Shaun Edwards has got over that issue!
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Hoofer wrote:Pemps and all, Jason has the 2007 England World Cup forwards coach looking after his pack, and he didn't do too badly. He is a fiercely driven individual, as my mrs found out when she asked him a daft question once. I wish him well, my only fear is that his own high standards may upset others, though it has to be said, Shaun Edwards has got over that issue!
What have I got to do with this debate?
king warrior wrote:Adam Blair flew over yesterday and has been training the deal is going to be signed this week
SomersetSaint wrote:Without wanting to make an anti Wigan point, it seems that players like the fabled Sam (I personally have no idea how good he is, or isn't) are being stifled at the club, with few, or no opportunities. Were he at Saints or Leeds, he would likely get more opportunity? It is wise therefore, for union clubs to target the Wigan youngsters ahead of other clubs, because they are far more likely to be disenchanted in the first place, and are therefore easier pickings? Plus, the dressing room unhappiness that is talked about on here, being boo'd by your own speccies, and the lack of any real prospect of silverware must make talented kids think seriously about going to pastures new.
There may be something in that, but you could hardly say that Chris Ashton didn't get first team action.
I suspect it's more to do with Wigan's reputation for producing quality youngsters, which goes back a long, long way. And with the average RU club's limited knowledge of RL in general.
Sale in particular rarely look beyond Wigan when trying to recruit from RL. Whether this is Jason Robinson's influence or not, I don't know. But those who are now concerned about Robinson's appointment as head coach at Sale have every reason to be. Robinson has been hanging around the Wigan camp for the last 8 or 9 months.
He's been right in our midst - so much so that folk were wondering if he was being lined up for a job at Wigan. More fool us. If there's one thing you can safely say about Jason Robinson, he knows where the grass is greener.
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