Grimmy wrote:Would only have Wild back of that lot. Why are people acting like it's the end of the world because we lost in the semi final of the challenge cup against a class side? People might claim Warrington aren't a class side but IMO they've been a sleeping giant for a long time. Now they have a quality coach it's all falling into place for them, they'll be tough to beat for any team at the moment.
All that the semi's have taught/reminded us is:
a - Our pack isn't good enough, we need a new prop and to sort out Paleaaesina's defence, probably by turning some fat into muscle. I'd say we need to sort out Fielden's attack but I think he's beyond help. Drop him to the academy and see if he stands out there even.
b - Noble isn't that great a coach, whether better is available I don't know.
You would have Wild over Briscoe?
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
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LovesToSpooge wrote:Brown appears to be a superb coach, with modern day techniques and a great style of play to win games
A good post until your last statement about a 'great style of play'.
They are actually quite dull to watch....very structured, very disciplined, little flair....(saying that the first try of the second half was a fantastic pre-set move... ).
It is because of this dullness that they are acheving so much success...A similar thing appears to be happening with my side, Warrington....For years we had Paul Cullen attempting to turn us into the Kevin Keegan-era Newcastle Utd of Super League...A 'You score 40, we'll score 41' mentality...Eventually, this naiveity got found and Cullen got sent on his way to his rightful home (The National League).
Now we have finally found a coach who realises the importance of discipline and structure, and with it results have improved, even if entertainment is sometimes lacking on what we were used to.
Just remember back to your successful sides of the late 80's, early 90's and you will realise that, yes you did have some great individuals, but importantly they played to a well thought out plan from some great coches of that era.
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LovesToSpooge wrote:Brown appears to be a superb coach, with modern day techniques and a great style of play to win games
A good post until your last statement about a 'great style of play'.
They are actually quite dull to watch....very structured, very disciplined, little flair....(saying that the first try of the second half was a fantastic pre-set move... ).
It is because of this dullness that they are acheving so much success...A similar thing appears to be happening with my side, Warrington....For years we had Paul Cullen attempting to turn us into the Kevin Keegan-era Newcastle Utd of Super League...A 'You score 40, we'll score 41' mentality...Eventually, this naiveity got found and Cullen got sent on his way to his rightful home (The National League).
Now we have finally found a coach who realises the importance of discipline and structure, and with it results have improved, even if entertainment is sometimes lacking on what we were used to.
Just remember back to your successful sides of the late 80's, early 90's and you will realise that, yes you did have some great individuals, but importantly they played to a well thought out plan from some great coches of that era.
The Angry Pirate wrote:A good post until your last statement about a 'great style of play'.
They are actually quite dull to watch....very structured, very disciplined, little flair....(saying that the first try of the second half was a fantastic pre-set move... ).
It is because of this dullness that they are acheving so much success...A similar thing appears to be happening with my side, Warrington....For years we had Paul Cullen attempting to turn us into the Kevin Keegan-era Newcastle Utd of Super League...A 'You score 40, we'll score 41' mentality...Eventually, this naiveity got found and Cullen got sent on his way to his rightful home (The National League).
Now we have finally found a coach who realises the importance of discipline and structure, and with it results have improved, even if entertainment is sometimes lacking on what we were used to.
Just remember back to your successful sides of the late 80's, early 90's and you will realise that, yes you did have some great individuals, but importantly they played to a well thought out plan from some great coches of that era.
I thought all of Hudds tries were great especially the first, it was perfection and the last one was a moment of brilliance from Hodgson and some poor defense from Graham.
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
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The Angry Pirate wrote:A good post until your last statement about a 'great style of play'.
They are actually quite dull to watch....very structured, very disciplined, little flair....(saying that the first try of the second half was a fantastic pre-set move... ).
It is because of this dullness that they are acheving so much success...A similar thing appears to be happening with my side, Warrington....For years we had Paul Cullen attempting to turn us into the Kevin Keegan-era Newcastle Utd of Super League...A 'You score 40, we'll score 41' mentality...Eventually, this naiveity got found and Cullen got sent on his way to his rightful home (The National League).
Now we have finally found a coach who realises the importance of discipline and structure, and with it results have improved, even if entertainment is sometimes lacking on what we were used to.
Just remember back to your successful sides of the late 80's, early 90's and you will realise that, yes you did have some great individuals, but importantly they played to a well thought out plan from some great coches of that era.
Your right in saying it's not the greatest to watch in entertainment value, however I stand by my statement "it's a great style of play to win games" because it is, there in 3rd place and have recently been racking up some big scores, plus that style of play completely nullified saints. Yes it may not be highly riveting stuff to watch, but god it's effective.
Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0
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No he wasn't!
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Question 1. "Huddersfield prop Darrell Griffin is not good enough for Wigan and is the sort of player we don't need" Discuss with reference to this weekend's Challenge Cup semi-finals and the work of Stuart Fielden and Iaefta Paleaasina
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