I got the `rumour` from a normally very reliable source, I didn,t know JR had been spotted at 2 games and was asking a genuine question!!

You'll look an idiot now if he does sign





Remember Lenegan said they were adding more people to the backroom staff

Well, it'll not be the first time I have been made to look an idiot on these forums

Aye. I heard something similar. I heard that Ian Gildart is making a return at prop. He was at the game too.

Indeed this is true, but Brian is thinking of switching him to Fullback for the Cas match.

Seeing as there were rumours linking us to Richard Moore:



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Irrespective of whether we sign him or not, I hope he's now able to get the treatment to be well and continue playing rugby.

1 Roberts/Richards

2 Ainscough

3 Sonny Bill Williams

4Carmont

5 Richards/Roberts

6 (New SO)

7 Smith then Tomkins

8 Fielden

9 LuLu

10 Prescott

11 Hansen

12 Lockers

13 J Tomkins



14 Feka

15 Hock

16 Riddell

17 Goulding

18 Pryce

19 O Barrell

20 S Tomkins (/next to Smith.



With this sell: Bailey, Phelps, Mathers, Coley +20k we already have enough for an unhappy Sonny Bill and a new S/O.



Also send out McClorum on load and maybe one or two other young lads, get them some experience and free up more cap space.



Surely this isn't too unrealistic!



Thoughts?

I don't think even that would give us enough for Sonny Bill. He's on astonomical money in Union. Plus, we'd have to find sufficient takers for all those you nominate. I suspect we could unload a couple, but not all of them at the same time. And even if we did, we'd be weakening our squad numerically at a time when we're probably stronger in terms of numbers than we've been since the start of SL.



I see where you're coming from, but unfortunately I think it's a non-starter. I doubt we'll ever see SBW in RL again. French RU has got a lot more cash than sense.

SBW is unhappy in RU and wants out. So where is he to go?



NRL won't touch him, so SL is an option. Hull are already sniffing around, I just hope we are too.



Losing the likes of Coley,Phelps, Bailey, Mathers would simply allow others to have a crack at the big time.

But there in lies the problem who would take these players and there wages onboard? I cannot see anyone wanting to.



It will not be till the end of 2009/off season 2010, where Smith will also be on that list, till we see exactly who we can bring to the club.



I would anticipate that would give us somewhere in the region of between £300 000-£350 000k to play with, and the positive side of this is that we should not have to recruit anyone to replace those players generally as all the players are in house and contracted already, more or less.

It all depends on SBW and if he's not enjoying French life or if he's not enjoying RU in general. Hopefully it's the latter as then SL is his only option His market value in RL is different to his market value in RU also. SBW and his agent will know this and they'll still go to the highest bidder but they know they'll never get what he's on now in RL.



In regards to numbers i guess it's a question of if you want quality or quantity. I'd prefer a mixture of both tbh but i'd like our back ups to be be kids like Mossop, O'Carroll, Ainscough and Farrell rather than Phelps & Mathers etc.



For me this club is crying out for a true world class talent and SBW is certainly that.

We need someone who can just provide that Xfactor when the chips are down like they were on Sunday and produce on game changing moment of magic. Farrell used to do it, Trent did it many times but who’s gonna do it now for us?

I say stop all this talk about SBW its never going to happen and will only make you depressed

I agree with the Preistman85.



A good team has it's youngsters breaking through, it's week in week out performers/solid players with experience and it's star players with spark who have that certain something who can win you a game from no where.



Over the years we've gone from having one of these players in ever position Hanley Greg Dermo Edwards etc, to having a few in a team Farrell. Renoef Lam to having one, Faz then Baz to nowadays were we have not one in our team.

If we do have that much to spend I dont think we shoud replace all those players directly but get in some real world class players and blood some youngsters.

surely at that v first fans forum at deanery IL said that it was THIS season that we would enjoy some cap space freed up - especially seeing that TB went on top of what we all would have predicted.



Dont hold your breth troops

Interesting article regarding Eddie Jones here: www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/lo ... 14482.html Quote I played league when I was a young kid and loved the game,But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia. "I played league when I was a young kid and loved the game," he said from London. "I always watched the game pretty intently and still watch it. "If ever there was an opportunity to do that I would jump at it because I think it is a fantastic game. It would be a great challenge."'" Although the article says 'But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia', I think he means Rugby League in general.

Interesting article regarding Eddie Jones here: www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/lo ... 14482.html Quote I played league when I was a young kid and loved the game,But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia. "I played league when I was a young kid and loved the game," he said from London. "I always watched the game pretty intently and still watch it. "If ever there was an opportunity to do that I would jump at it because I think it is a fantastic game. It would be a great challenge."'" Although the article says 'But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia', I think he means Rugby League in general.

Quote Alex BP'="Alex BP'"Interesting article regarding Eddie Jones here: www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/lo ... 14482.html Although the article says 'But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia', I think he means Rugby League in general.'" Well if Edwards can do so well in Union, why cant Jones do the same in League? Would be interesting atleast to see how he turned out if he became a League coach

Quote Alex BP'="Alex BP'"Interesting article regarding Eddie Jones here: www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/lo ... 14482.html Although the article says 'But his dream is to coach in the NRL in Australia', I think he means Rugby League in general.'" Well if Edwards can do so well in Union, why cant Jones do the same in League? Would be interesting atleast to see how he turned out if he became a League coach

Why are we entertaining the prospect of an RU coach. Its absurb and hopefully IL will view it as such.

sonny money bill is a game breaker . and he knows it . he carved up teams in the nrl by himself

Yeah, we've picked that up.

Who's ever said anything about Noble leaving the club?



By discussing and wanting other coaches isn't exactly a good way to thank a coach who took us from the being the worst team in the league to 3rd two seasons running.



Yes at times we might disagree with his tactics or squad selection, but he's the man who's got us 3rd best from worst in no time at all. Lets play this season and maybe next out first.



Sorting out the cr*p at Wigan isn't an overnight job.

Agreed but seeing basic improvement over the time he has been here which is now 2.5 years should be expected.



The fact of the matter is we have seen no improvement from the displays of the team he took over under Millward, despite the squad being more "his players" at the start of every season.

Well put. I don't think IL would rush to sack Noble with the same speed and eagerness that someone like Whelan would, but if last Sunday's form persists for any length of time this season, I'd be very surprised if an alternative coach wasn't being sought by the mid-way stage. I can't see the club would have any option.



It's not the lack of trophies, but the lack of improvement that is frustrating so many people.

You're making the assumption that they are 'his' players. Not necessarily the case.