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Rogues Gallery wrote:The Fielden myth.

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=29&hs2=2009&hp2=19&stat=tries&season=2008

Fielden is making more metres per carry than Peacock.



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Rogues Gallery wrote:The Fielden myth.

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=29&hs2=2009&hp2=19&stat=tries&season=2008

Fielden is making more metres per carry than Peacock.



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Rogues Gallery wrote:The Fielden myth.

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=29&hs2=2009&hp2=19&stat=tries&season=2008

Fielden is making more metres per carry than Peacock.

However his defence needs to improve.

I'll bet his 7.2 metres per carry is up there worth most of the top props.

I've said this before Fielden is nowhere near as bad a many on here make him out to be.


Trouble is with them stats is it looks good when you work out "Average per Carry" and he turns out better than Peacock. But in doing that youve overlooked the fact that Peacock has made more Tackles, Missed Less, Played Less Games (OK only 1 but still).

But regarding Meters the key factor (especially with Props) is their effort working for the team, and on that basis Peacock has made more than 70 more drives and more than 450m more than Fielden. For a prop these 2 are the crucial stats IMO more than metres made as it shows that the player is taking alot of the workload and setting a platform, with regards to that Peacock is the far superior player (as everyone really knows anyway)
Rogues Gallery wrote:The Fielden myth.

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=29&hs2=2009&hp2=19&stat=tries&season=2008

Fielden is making more metres per carry than Peacock.

However his defence needs to improve.

I'll bet his 7.2 metres per carry is up there worth most of the top props.

I've said this before Fielden is nowhere near as bad a many on here make him out to be.


Trouble is with them stats is it looks good when you work out "Average per Carry" and he turns out better than Peacock. But in doing that youve overlooked the fact that Peacock has made more Tackles, Missed Less, Played Less Games (OK only 1 but still).

But regarding Meters the key factor (especially with Props) is their effort working for the team, and on that basis Peacock has made more than 70 more drives and more than 450m more than Fielden. For a prop these 2 are the crucial stats IMO more than metres made as it shows that the player is taking alot of the workload and setting a platform, with regards to that Peacock is the far superior player (as everyone really knows anyway)

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Stats are all very well but everyone knows that our props haven't done it for us this year so far.
That's why we are all saying that area is a signings priority.
Yes we need a half back, yes a full back too but the first and foremost signings have to be at least two props for next year, or one this year if possible.

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Everyone keeps talking about how we need a full back, and we do, but as far as i'm concerned it should be near the bottom of the list.

It seems that to have an attacking fullback is sort of an extra piece of the jigsaw for the big teams, who are solid everywhere else and can afford an excellent attacking fullback (webb for example), for teams mid-table like us at the minute, as long as the fullback is solid and competent under the high ball thats all they need to do. Obviously linking up with the line would be nice, but its not essential to the success of the team, its an extra tactic that could be used when your that good everywhere else and adds an extra option to breaking down teams. I'd much rather have a solid dependable fullback (richards) than a full back who couldnt catch of tackle for the life of them but linked up in play and scored the odd try.



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W!64N_ENTHUSI45T wrote:Trouble is with them stats is it looks good when you work out "Average per Carry" and he turns out better than Peacock. But in doing that youve overlooked the fact that Peacock has made more Tackles, Missed Less, Played Less Games (OK only 1 but still).

But regarding Meters the key factor (especially with Props) is their effort working for the team, and on that basis Peacock has made more than 70 more drives and more than 450m more than Fielden. For a prop these 2 are the crucial stats IMO more than metres made as it shows that the player is taking alot of the workload and setting a platform, with regards to that Peacock is the far superior player (as everyone really knows anyway)


The one very glaring issue that you state as a measure for props, 70 more carries etc. A prop IS NOT THE ONE DECIDING WHEN HE CARRIES.

Don't get me wrong i am just playing devils advocate, but is nobody curious as why in the blue hell we give our forwards such little ball.

I just wonder how much of it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, we give our forwards little ball because we don't have the confidence in them........ wonder what message that gives them.

It's clear that something is 'wrong' in the chemistry/communication/comradeship in the team. They certainly all are not busting their ass for each other as a complete team.

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W!64N_ENTHUSI45T wrote:Trouble is with them stats is it looks good when you work out "Average per Carry" and he turns out better than Peacock. But in doing that youve overlooked the fact that Peacock has made more Tackles, Missed Less, Played Less Games (OK only 1 but still).

But regarding Meters the key factor (especially with Props) is their effort working for the team, and on that basis Peacock has made more than 70 more drives and more than 450m more than Fielden. For a prop these 2 are the crucial stats IMO more than metres made as it shows that the player is taking alot of the workload and setting a platform, with regards to that Peacock is the far superior player (as everyone really knows anyway)


How I see it is that Fielden is now getting far less game time than he used to. He was regularly doing 70 minutes, now he is probably doing 50, that would account for the "number of carries" and metres made being less.






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