FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Wigan Warriors Safer Rugby League from 2024



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 65 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 7  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Safer Rugby League from 2024
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:25 pm 
Club Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Feb 21 2005
Posts: 9518
Location: Leeds
jonh wrote:As far as I can see SL won’t be affected, apart from the fact we will have independent concussion observers at every match.

It is the community game, reserves and academy that this applies to.

Initially there will undoubtedly be more penalties, however just like in Union once the players and refs get used to the new rules these penalties will reduce significantly.

If you look back on games from the 50’s to the 1980’s the game looks very different.

It was barbaric at times with what went on, on the pitch where a game of rugby rarely broke out between the thuggery. This was accepted as part of the game. These days some of the acts that went on would land you in jail.

I’m not pro the changes, but I understand why they are being put in place and I believe that is to future proof the sport from a constantly changing society in which we now live.


The new rules will apply to SL in 2025.

As I said on the other thread I don't like it at all but suspect the game has no choice due to the insurance premiums. I can see huge problems ahead in implementing it. Just out of interest I watched 5 minutes of one of the 2023 games on YouTube and could barely find one tackle that wouldn't be illegal under the new rules.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Safer Rugby League from 2024
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:51 pm 
First Team Player
First Team Player

Joined: Aug 14 2020
Posts: 1375
Well I feel for the taller players if you think about a tackle from a smaller player to a taller player would suit them as they can legally hit the taller player with the shoulder in the midwith without bending down,but the taller player will struggle to get his arms under the armpits of a smaller player,if you get what I mean.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Safer Rugby League from 2024
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:24 pm 
Club Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Feb 21 2005
Posts: 9518
Location: Leeds
Jason65 wrote:Well I feel for the taller players if you think about a tackle from a smaller player to a taller player would suit them as they can legally hit the taller player with the shoulder in the midwith without bending down,but the taller player will struggle to get his arms under the armpits of a smaller player,if you get what I mean.


Yep - not sure how Sam Walters is supposed to tackle Mikey Lewis. He'll have to army crawl out of the defensive line.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Safer Rugby League from 2024
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:07 pm 
Club Coach
Club Coach

Joined: Jan 14 2006
Posts: 15259
MadDogg wrote:The new rules will apply to SL in 2025.

As I said on the other thread I don't like it at all but suspect the game has no choice due to the insurance premiums. I can see huge problems ahead in implementing it. Just out of interest I watched 5 minutes of one of the 2023 games on YouTube and could barely find one tackle that wouldn't be illegal under the new rules.


Anyone who thinks this is something we've 'no choice but to accept' needs to give their head a wobble. In fact, I'd go as far as to say they are part of the problem.

We've no choice but to accept the end of the game as we know it.

To hell with that.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Safer Rugby League from 2024
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:27 pm 
International Board Member
Club Owner

Joined: Mar 06 2003
Posts: 20466
Does this 'contact above the shoulders' include a hand-off to the face when in possession of the ball?






WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA

WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024

SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024

CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024

LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024

ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024

WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018

BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024

CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012




Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Safer Rugby League from 2024
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:36 pm 
Academy Player
Academy Player

Joined: Sep 07 2023
Posts: 313
jonh wrote:As far as I can see SL won’t be affected, apart from the fact we will have independent concussion observers at every match.

It is the community game, reserves and academy that this applies to.

Initially there will undoubtedly be more penalties, however just like in Union once the players and refs get used to the new rules these penalties will reduce significantly.

If you look back on games from the 50’s to the 1980’s the game looks very different.

It was barbaric at times with what went on, on the pitch where a game of rugby rarely broke out between the thuggery. This was accepted as part of the game. These days some of the acts that went on would land you in jail.

I’m not pro the changes, but I understand why they are being put in place and I believe that is to future proof the sport from a constantly changing society in which we now live.


SL will have to abide by it in 2025.

We have all these ex players Suing the rfl to thank for this. You know. The ones who apparently didn’t know the risks of playing rugby league. One of which did his very best to smash his forearm into the defenders head everytime he ran the ball in.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Safer Rugby League from 2024
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:17 am 
International Star
First Team Player

Joined: Feb 12 2012
Posts: 1011
Location: Wigan
Everyone who has played the game knew that they risked injury from a broken leg etc. from which they could recover 99.9% of the time. What not everyone was aware of was the long term impact of repetitive head injuries from which they can't recover. Now the effects are known the sport has a duty of care to past and current players. In future maybe an insurance waiver could be introduced but then it would end up being "Why should the tax payer pay for their treatment; they knew the risks.", a view already taken by some sections of society about smokers and the obese.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Safer Rugby League from 2024
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:56 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member
User avatar

Joined: Nov 08 2004
Posts: 29779
Location: WIGAN
dr_feelgood wrote:Everyone who has played the game knew that they risked injury from a broken leg etc. from which they could recover 99.9% of the time. What not everyone was aware of was the long term impact of repetitive head injuries from which they can't recover. Now the effects are known the sport has a duty of care to past and current players. In future maybe an insurance waiver could be introduced but then it would end up being "Why should the tax payer pay for their treatment; they knew the risks.", a view already taken by some sections of society about smokers and the obese.


Is this move going to offer greater protection to players though? Making defenders go lower increases the chances of catching hips and knees. I honestly think it could increase problems.

All the sit down protocols, extended pre season breaks, concussion subs etc are things we can all get behind but this tackling heigh law? I just can’t go with it and can’t see that it helps.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Safer Rugby League from 2024
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:58 pm 
Fringe Player
Fringe Player
User avatar

Joined: Sep 02 2023
Posts: 813
This was put on the HullFC board

From this;

Nick Fozzard
@Fozzythebear1
I hit sinfield with a very deliberate attack to his head hurting him quite badly giving away a penalty - my captain Nat wood shouted to me, “do it to him again” so I did - I head butted Barrie macdermot & got sent off - & we lost

To this;

Nick Fozzard
@Fozzythebear1
I’m involved in this case to provide for my kids & fiancée when I’m no longer here - I hope you can all relate to that

Can he litigate against himself?

If this is what we have to fear off the ex-players,then we will have no fear and he was always taking the ball in with his elbow up.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Safer Rugby League from 2024
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 3:41 pm 
Club Coach
Club Coach

Joined: Jan 14 2006
Posts: 15259
The games afoot wrote:This was put on the HullFC board

From this;

Nick Fozzard
@Fozzythebear1
I hit sinfield with a very deliberate attack to his head hurting him quite badly giving away a penalty - my captain Nat wood shouted to me, “do it to him again” so I did - I head butted Barrie macdermot & got sent off - & we lost

To this;

Nick Fozzard
@Fozzythebear1
I’m involved in this case to provide for my kids & fiancée when I’m no longer here - I hope you can all relate to that

Can he litigate against himself?

If this is what we have to fear off the ex-players,then we will have no fear and he was always taking the ball in with his elbow up.


They're not exactly the brains of Britain. The problem is that a whole bunch of shifty lawyers are now smelling blood, and I have no confidence in the RFL fighting back against it hard enough.

Make no mistake. The future of the game as we know it is hanging in the balance here.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 65 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 7  Next





It is currently Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:22 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ashton Bears, fleabag, Phuzzy, spartakmixtapes, SubjectNine, Wigg'n and 403 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:22 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Film game
karetaker
5805
25m
Squad numbers
Wigg'n
7
33m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
217
44m
Shirt reveal coming soon
AgbriggAmble
40
59m
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
5
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2622
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
apollosghost
28911
Recent
Cornwall has a new owner
Huddersfield
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
39s
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Stu M
16
42s
2025 Shirt
NickyKiss
23
1m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
217
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Chris71
4056
1m
Ground Improvements
Dunkirk Spir
219
1m
Squad numbers
Wigg'n
7
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2622
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63284
3m
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
7m
Cornwall has a new owner
Huddersfield
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Wigg'n
7
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
5
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
AgbriggAmble
40
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Film game
karetaker
5805
25m
Squad numbers
Wigg'n
7
33m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
217
44m
Shirt reveal coming soon
AgbriggAmble
40
59m
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
5
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2622
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
apollosghost
28911
Recent
Cornwall has a new owner
Huddersfield
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
39s
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Stu M
16
42s
2025 Shirt
NickyKiss
23
1m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
217
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Chris71
4056
1m
Ground Improvements
Dunkirk Spir
219
1m
Squad numbers
Wigg'n
7
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2622
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63284
3m
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
7m
Cornwall has a new owner
Huddersfield
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Wigg'n
7
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
5
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
AgbriggAmble
40
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.