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| Quote Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"Just when you thought the club had rid itself of its addiction to signing ex-players........'"
Agreed,very uninspired signing done naff all since his threw his toys out the pram and flounce off to seek fame and fortune elsewhere when will this club learn?
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| Quote hengirl="hengirl"Agreed,very uninspired signing done naff all since his threw his toys out the pram and flounce off to seek fame and fortune elsewhere when will this club learn?'"
But this signing has improved the squad, so not sure what the issue is? He's replaced Hanley as a 3rd backup at FB and is a better player than Hanley is. Add in that he'll also be covering HB and it's a 'no brainer'.
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"But this signing has improved the squad, so not sure what the issue is? He's replaced Hanley as a 3rd backup at FB and is a better player than Hanley is. Add in that he'll also be covering HB and it's a 'no brainer'.'"
With the way people are talking, you'd think he'd be starting at 6 at Hull KR in a few weeks wouldn't you.
Completely agree, solid signing. Back up to injuries, no doubt on a cheap deal. If he isn't good enough, he'll leave at the end of next year.
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| As much as it pains me to say it, its a good signing for Wigan and gives them squad depth which every club needs due to the stupid MRP.
Better to have an experienced player coming in than a green youngster.
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| We lack cover across the back positions and he can play anywhere bar centre. I’m sure he’s come extremely cheap and has a one year deal, which means he’ll fight hard for another. It’s a signing you just can’t lose out on really. The lad should’ve handled his first stint differently and I’m sure he wonders how things might’ve gone had he done so but hopefully that will add some hunger.
No issues at all with the signing IMO.
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| Awful signing, The End
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"We lack cover across the back positions and he can play anywhere bar centre. I’m sure he’s come extremely cheap and has a one year deal, which means he’ll fight hard for another. It’s a signing you just can’t lose out on really. The lad should’ve handled his first stint differently and I’m sure he wonders how things might’ve gone had he done so but hopefully that will add some hunger.
No issues at all with the signing IMO.'"
Agree with majority of this particularly cover for HB.
Smith, Cust, Astley and Hampshire for HB gives us pretty good coverage and competition for places. Cust was ok last season and if he doesn't kick on then we have 2 alternatives that hopefully will assist in keeping him more focused and more consistent.
I've never rated him at all at FB. Always looks under pressure with any high balls.
I have him as a liability at FB. Never looks comfortable.
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| I think a few people are responding to this as if he was being signed as a starter. He isn't. As a squad player for extra cover, particularly in the halves, it makes a lot of sense. He's good quality with a good skillset and lots of experience. Still only 28 too.
My only concerns would be regarding his injury and that Astley still gets adequate game time. Other than that, a solid signing.
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| It's a small gamble that 'could' pay off. A fully fit Hampshire would no doubt bring experience and talent as cover. However he is at least two months away from being anywhere near ready to come back, three months at least until match fit.
We've already taken a gamble on Thornley over the last twelve months despite his injury record over the last couple of years, how many of you would say he's been value for money?
Whilst not an expensive gamble alone it's still money on the cap and along with Thornley (who's still not ready I believe) it's probably considerable in total.
That being said, I do believe we still have money available on the side should a quality signing in the right position become available.
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"
I've never rated him at all at FB. Always looks under pressure with any high balls.
I have him as a liability at FB. Never looks comfortable.'"
I agree with that, but at the same time he's got plenty of stuff going for him at FB too (pace, hands etc). You'd be hard pressed to find a 3rd choice FB who's as competent as Hampshire.
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Good luck to him, he will do a good job as a squad player. My only concern is that acl injury, but I can't think of many available players that can cover almost the entire back line with the exception of centre. He's only just turned 28 and averages about 1 try every three games plus he is a good goalkicker. It'll be up to him to put the hard work in, it's a low risk signing.
The majority of Cas fans seem sorry to see him go.
https://www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34042
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Good luck to him, he will do a good job as a squad player. My only concern is that acl injury, but I can't think of many available players that can cover almost the entire back line with the exception of centre. He's only just turned 28 and averages about 1 try every three games plus he is a good goalkicker. It'll be up to him to put the hard work in, it's a low risk signing.
The majority of Cas fans seem sorry to see him go.
https://www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34042
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| Quote Phuzzy="Phuzzy"I think a few people are responding to this as if he was being signed as a starter. He isn't. As a squad player for extra cover, particularly in the halves, it makes a lot of sense. He's good quality with a good skillset and lots of experience. Still only 28 too.
My only concerns would be regarding his injury and that Astley still gets adequate game time. Other than that, a solid signing.'"
Exactly. It’s like Manchester United recently signing a goalkeeper and some fans blew up and opposition fans took the mick. He was signed as third choice and will probably never play, so why get eat up? Cap space being taken up maybe, but it’ll be minimal and we clearly have room.
If we lose a winger, Miski comes in, a centre and Thornley comes in (when fit), a halfback and Field probably moves from fullback and French goes there and the same if Field goes down. There’s no saying he’ll jump above guys like Eckersley or Astley either, especially if they get first chance and do well. It’s just a nice comfort blanket to have and saves you potentially ruining a kid who is too young and has to play every week during an injury crisis.
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"I agree with that, but at the same time he's got plenty of stuff going for him at FB too (pace, hands etc). You'd be hard pressed to find a 3rd choice FB who's as competent as Hampshire.'"
As cover/competition for HB along with the majority of posters I think that it is a reasonable signing for the squad. When he played in the academy I thought he could become a real star but unfortunately, it was not to be. I agree as a few have said with him him being a goal kicker is a big plus for the club and for him it could be the "golden ticket" to get some 1st team action.
As a FB I'd play young Sumner before him. Much more accomplished and he is a FB.
Not knocking Hampshire just do not see him as a FB in any capacity other than 4th choice in an emergency.
My only potential reservation with his signing is that I hope young Astley doesn't see his arris and become unsettled. Hopefully it has the opposite effect and Astley strives even harder for 1st team opportunities.
In summary a reasonable and understandable move by the club that I suspect is low in cost and risk on the assumption that his current injury isn't detremental to his undoubted pace.
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| Probably be used as a bench player.
Cust to 9 and Hampshire in the halves.
Better than moving Field and French if there's an issue in the halves.
Peet has something in mind signing him.
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| No risk cover signing, along with King we've two blokes there playing for a contract, don't see any downside to this
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Good luck to him, he will do a good job as a squad player. My only concern is that acl injury, but I can't think of many available players that can cover almost the entire back line with the exception of centre. He's only just turned 28 and averages about 1 try every three games plus he is a good goalkicker. It'll be up to him to put the hard work in, it's a low risk signing.
The majority of Cas fans seem sorry to see him go.
https://www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34042'"
I take it Brian that the big news has yet to materialise?
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Good luck to him, he will do a good job as a squad player. My only concern is that acl injury, but I can't think of many available players that can cover almost the entire back line with the exception of centre. He's only just turned 28 and averages about 1 try every three games plus he is a good goalkicker. It'll be up to him to put the hard work in, it's a low risk signing.
The majority of Cas fans seem sorry to see him go.
https://www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34042'"
I take it Brian that the big news has yet to materialise?
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| I'm perfectly happy with this signing, capable of covering multiple spots, on a low salary. The definition of a squad player.
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Good luck to him, he will do a good job as a squad player. My only concern is that acl injury, but I can't think of many available players that can cover almost the entire back line with the exception of centre. He's only just turned 28 and averages about 1 try every three games plus he is a good goalkicker. It'll be up to him to put the hard work in, it's a low risk signing.
The majority of Cas fans seem sorry to see him go.
https://www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34042'"
I’ve just been reading that and it’s good to hear that they felt he was playing really well pre injury. Some weird comments about his rehab having been organised by Cas meaning some are saying he’s a snake for leaving. Cas didn’t want to pay an injured player, so took the risk he’d leave. I read an article were they openly admitted they’d like to keep him should he prove his fitness but if you want him enough, you take the gamble. We’ve done just that because he won’t be fully fit for another couple of months and who knows how he comes back.
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The majority of Cas fans seem sorry to see him go.
https://www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34042'"
I’ve just been reading that and it’s good to hear that they felt he was playing really well pre injury. Some weird comments about his rehab having been organised by Cas meaning some are saying he’s a snake for leaving. Cas didn’t want to pay an injured player, so took the risk he’d leave. I read an article were they openly admitted they’d like to keep him should he prove his fitness but if you want him enough, you take the gamble. We’ve done just that because he won’t be fully fit for another couple of months and who knows how he comes back.
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| Cas made him an offer but it was a very low one.
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Which would seem like they’ve tried to hedge their bets a little due to the circumstances. I can’t really blame them but the Cas fans shouldn’t be bashing the lad for not taking any offer at all. I doubt ours is offering him a fortune but I guess he feels like there is some unfinished here.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Which would seem like they’ve tried to hedge their bets a little due to the circumstances. I can’t really blame them but the Cas fans shouldn’t be bashing the lad for not taking any offer at all. I doubt ours is offering him a fortune but I guess he feels like there is some unfinished here.'"
They were upset when we signed Zac. Remember being at Magic and old cas chap was near on crying about it. Just leave them too it think they have bigger concerns like staying up
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Which would seem like they’ve tried to hedge their bets a little due to the circumstances. I can’t really blame them but the Cas fans shouldn’t be bashing the lad for not taking any offer at all. I doubt ours is offering him a fortune but I guess he feels like there is some unfinished here.'"
To add to this, and i don't think i have seen anybody here mention it yet, hampshire is a homegrown player who came through our academy so shouldn't we get a percentage of his wage knocked off the cap also?
If we are already paying him a low wage (likely), then against the cap he should be very cheap. Seems like a no brainer signing to me if i am right.
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| Quote BoredWiganer="BoredWiganer"Quote BoredWiganer="NickyKiss"Which would seem like they’ve tried to hedge their bets a little due to the circumstances. I can’t really blame them but the Cas fans shouldn’t be bashing the lad for not taking any offer at all. I doubt ours is offering him a fortune but I guess he feels like there is some unfinished here.'"
To add to this, and i don't think i have seen anybody here mention it yet, hampshire is a homegrown player who came through our academy so shouldn't we get a percentage of his wage knocked off the cap also?
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This would only apply for marquee players. More broadly, clubs are given a £100k exemption for developing players but there are no specifics in the published rules around what clubs need to do to be granted this.
'Marquee Player – Each Super League and Championship Club is permitted to have two Marquee Players whose Salary Cap value is limited to £150,000 (or £75,000 if Club Trained);
Club Trained Dispensation – Each Super League club is given up to £100,000 of dispensation for producing Super League standard players.'
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"This would only apply for marquee players. More broadly, clubs are given a £100k exemption for developing players but there are no specifics in the published rules around what clubs need to do to be granted this.
'Marquee Player – Each Super League and Championship Club is permitted to have two Marquee Players whose Salary Cap value is limited to £150,000 (or £75,000 if Club Trained);
Club Trained Dispensation – Each Super League club is given up to £100,000 of dispensation for producing Super League standard players.''"
Ah, so it is likely a club like ours is already using the 100k, understood thanks.
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