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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:23 am 
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Alll excellent points.

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DaveO wrote:The point still stands. Richards was not comfortable out there and fitness test or not it was yet another poor selection decision by Noble.

Ainscough supposedly needs to work on some aspects of his game well what better practice match do you want? Leeds?

The perfect match to rest him would in fact be a game against a side like Leeds. This I would have thought was obvious.

It was also Noble who was saying just a few weeks ago age doesn't count it is the players ability (or some such words) well take away Richards goal kicking and it is starting to get to the stage Ainscough should be in the side on merit alone.

All this duty of care tosh is just that, tosh. Ainscough (and Tomkins) are old enough to be in a SL sides first 17 on a regular basis and their form is also good enough to keep them there.

Or it would be if we had a coach with a brain.

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I'm inclined to agree. The dropping of Ainscough worried me a lot last Sunday. Compared to other 'senior players', he's done very little wrong this season - yet he's dropped at the first opportunity. It's not good.

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DaveO wrote:The point still stands. Richards was not comfortable out there and fitness test or not it was yet another poor selection decision by Noble.

Ainscough supposedly needs to work on some aspects of his game well what better practice match do you want? Leeds?

The perfect match to rest him would in fact be a game against a side like Leeds. This I would have thought was obvious.

It was also Noble who was saying just a few weeks ago age doesn't count it is the players ability (or some such words) well take away Richards goal kicking and it is starting to get to the stage Ainscough should be in the side on merit alone.

All this duty of care tosh is just that, tosh. Ainscough (and Tomkins) are old enough to be in a SL sides first 17 on a regular basis and their form is also good enough to keep them there.

Or it would be if we had a coach with a brain.

Dave


The problem is Ainscough for his few faults is our best (only) strike weapon. Hes put himself in the position that he has to be picked in the bigger games however as Hogan said he has to be rested at some point so it seems logical to give him a rest against a side we should be beating comfortably.

Richards probably needed that game to get his match fitness back.

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NickyKiss wrote:Aslong as it is a way of giving him a rest and Noble does really plan on brining him back in asap then i have no problem with it.


Spot on.

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DaveO wrote:Ainscough supposedly needs to work on some aspects of his game well what better practice match do you want? Leeds?

The perfect match to rest him would in fact be a game against a side like Leeds. This I would have thought was obvious.


However, as you say he's not the finished article but is doing very well for himself. If he was 'dropped' for a big game against likes of Leeds, St Helens, it would do his confidence no good at all and would be on par with dropping him as the coach worry that he could be a 'weak link' etc and not good enough to be playing the big teams.

There's valid points on either side.






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- Neil - wrote:The problem is Ainscough for his few faults is our best (only) strike weapon. Hes put himself in the position that he has to be picked in the bigger games however as Hogan said he has to be rested at some point so it seems logical to give him a rest against a side we should be beating comfortably.

Richards probably needed that game to get his match fitness back.

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coaches dont rest young players they just keep there feet on the ground, great example eastmond at saints, he should be infront of long on merit alone but hes not

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Legend That Sorts It wrote:#

coaches dont rest young players they just keep there feet on the ground, great example eastmond at saints, he should be infront of long on merit alone but hes not


No he shouldn't. For a start he's hardly strung 5 games together without getting injured for a couple of years.

Eastmond's progression is being handled just fine. If he can shake off the knocks, he'll take over from Longy next year for sure.

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- Neil - wrote:The problem is Ainscough for his few faults is our best (only) strike weapon. Hes put himself in the position that he has to be picked in the bigger games however as Hogan said he has to be rested at some point so it seems logical to give him a rest against a side we should be beating comfortably.

Richards probably needed that game to get his match fitness back.


This imo is what Noble thought as well.

Ainscough is our main attacking threat and has to play against the bigger teams but he’s also a young player who imo shouldn’t play all the games in his debut season.

Celtic were the perfect opponents to rest him against as he wouldn’t be as badly missed as say against Leeds.

I’m not a Noble fan but he’s done well with this one for me.






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FearTheVee wrote:No he shouldn't. For a start he's hardly strung 5 games together without getting injured for a couple of years.

Eastmond's progression is being handled just fine. If he can shake off the knocks, he'll take over from Longy next year for sure.


You not expecting Long to be at Saints next year?

His influence on the side doesn't seem as great as it once was.

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FearTheVee wrote:No he shouldn't. For a start he's hardly strung 5 games together without getting injured for a couple of years.

Eastmond's progression is being handled just fine. If he can shake off the knocks, he'll take over from Longy next year for sure.


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