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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:10 pm 
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jonh wrote:To me Eastmond is much more suited to SL at the moment than Tomkins. In my opinion the exposure to first team last year has pushed him ahead of Tomkins, hopefully we will reap the rewards later in the year and future more than Saints will from Eastmond.

On the plus side it does look like we have 2 quality halves who have the potential to be anything in the game.


Stick Tomkins in the Saints team and he would be the best player the SL have ever seen. The point is Saints didn't need to rely of Eastmond tonight, all our hopes and dreams are pinned on Tomkins & Ainscough.






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jjb10 wrote:Stick Tomkins in the Saints team and he would be the best player the SL have ever seen. The point is Saints didn't need to rely of Eastmond tonight, all our hopes and dreams are pinned on Tomkins & Ainscough.


Disagree. Eastmond was under pressure tonight and came up with some real touches of composure and class. He is also more physically developed. Don't think he is a better prospect just has developed a bit quicker at this moment in time, both should go on to be international players.






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no-one is crtisizing the young lad,and that is what he is,just needs a bit more time, and yes he could be a world beater.if barrett was still here tomkins would have played a few matches some off the bench and would have gained the experience.so lets get real and nuture the lad the correct way.

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Cracking little player he is although I think he looked a little bit tired tonight. He probably needs a few games off to to freshen up, then get him back in the side. I think runs of games that young Sam and Kallum Watkins have had are perfect for exposing young players to super league. At no point do I think youngsters should have one game here and there and then be wrapped back up in cotton wool.

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jonh wrote:Disagree. Eastmond was under pressure tonight and came up with some real touches of composure and class. He is also more physically developed. Don't think he is a better prospect just has developed a bit quicker at this moment in time, both should go on to be international players.


A couple of points under pressure?? He came back into a team on form and had what 20mins +, no pressure at all, the whole of Wigan are hoping Sam is super man. Besides this is not the boys first season in super league.

What I do agree is I dont feel he is a better prospect just the right person, in the right place at the right time. Unfortuanatley for Sam he is the right person, in the right place at the wrong time.






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Tomkins was good tonight - as were 15 other players.

He will be a England player for years. It would help if we had a proper #7 alongside him, thats not a slant at Tommy, he is a great player but im not sure how suited they are to playing together.

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Tomkins is already a SL standard player. Yes, he needs to be protected from burn-out but if you are good enough then you're old enough. Faz, Robinson and Edwards played at even younger ages...

I can't understand why anyone would suggest playing Smith or Phelps ahead of Tomkins. Phelps is a very limited player and Smith simply hasn't delivered. We need to have faith in our younger players.

The main problem tonight was the apparent lack of planned moves - do we practise any moves in training? - which is a coaching issue. This game was yet another piece of evidence for the Noble Doubters. I hope BN's dull Bratfut tactics and methods don't stifle Tomkins' creativity.






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AJ wrote:Tomkins was good tonight - as were 15 other players.

He will be a England player for years. It would help if we had a proper #7 alongside him, thats not a slant at Tommy, he is a great player but im not sure how suited they are to playing together.

Its abit early to say, they need a season together to gel. Pryce didnt play well for his first half season at saints

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I can't believe anyone would say he should be dropped.

All i'm saying is for the lad to back himself a little more. He's a class act and a great runner but he looks a little tentative about running the ball in at the moment incase he upsets his teamates.

He's ging to be a wow of a player.

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Personally would like to see Tomkins drop in at 7 with TL at 6, think on the link plays TL would be more effective at second receiver because of his ability to beat a man in open play.






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