I pointed the last tackle plays out to 'cadoo' at the match on Friday because we often simply put a kick up to the corner. It's worth a go, once, twice, three times in a match maybe aslong as their is some variety in the last tackle plays, to keep the opposition guessing.

I like the chip over the top and chase tactic. To be honest you don't see it very often in Rugby League but Billy Whizz mastered it as has Shane Williams in rah rah. The bounce of the ball is important but it can totally confuse the defensive line.

One last tackle play we used to be very good at around 2003 was Lockers kicking from deep on the last tackle and him chasing it for his life upfield leading the rest of the team.

Our kick chase was excellent that year but has been pretty poor this year.

Your not the only one who has noticed this. I have mentioned awhile back on the other Warriors site that our last tackle plays were poor. Particularly close to the opponents line which shocks me a little because Thomas Leuluai has a fantastic short kicking game.

We seem to only know one method and that is the "bomb". I thought at first Noble thought that the wingers might be a bit suspect when we were playing Bradford and to an extent they were. But at Leeds we tried the same tactic and now again at Salford and it has come to nothing. It often halts momentum as well as the opposition have comfortably retained the ball, and our momentum is halted.

Something Wigan need to address.

These are problems

If Pat is too kick on the last then he should join the line so most players are onside

Your 2nd point is very true and we should utilise it a lot more, we will score a few tries a season from that combination

Our kicking game lacks variation, it is blatantly obvious we are going to kick on the last tackle and never before. Watched the replay of the Grand Final and Leeds kicked Saints to death by kicking on the 3rd and 4th tackles (there chase was pretty good too ) we would get a lot more 40/20's this way which is something we should definitely use more. It is also obvious we are going to kick to the corner which is pretty pointless especially with Pat at full back. We should try some grubbers, chips over the top, bombs and kicks to the corners.

Ey up! This might involve thinking for yourself/thinking on the hoof, something we don't seem particularly good at.

Ive said this for a while now and belive we need the lads practising set piece kicking in training.

Was Sam any good in the reserves at kicking?

I would be impressed if a coach thought of a completely new last play. It can't be too hard.

Coming from full back he'd get smashed before he got in front of them.