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Pemps wrote: Extra weight doesn't necessarily mean less speed if it's all managed correctly.
Not sure how you work that one out. It's physics (I think). Energy required to move a heavier weight is more than to move a lighter one. All other things (training and conditioning) being equal, heavier has to mean slower?
Anyway, it's a matter of opinion: we look slower and bulkier than other teams to me, and the Wakefield and Cas games provided plenty of examples. Bradford and Leeds as opponents were extreme examples of opposites in those regards.
It's just WIGAN, nothing else. Get rid of that stupid nickname.
JTB wrote:Do people ask for Ketchup or do you call it 'Red Sauce'?
...............tommy oh and sauce didnt want people getting confused with Mr Leuluai
We can hold our heads up high around town. Not for us the ignomony of having once supported United, Liverpool or Everton and then shamelessly casting our previous loyalties aside for a 2 bit fly-be-night outfit with no history or standing in the town. Not for us having to swear blind that we never supported another club, not for us having to swear blind that we watched our club pre-JJB.
We are Wigan Rugby League. Established 1872. The town's true club. Ancient and Loyal.
king warrior wrote: I'd chop my **** off for a win on sat seriously
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Pemps wrote:Hansen needed to put weight on along with O'Carroll. Fielden doesn't look any different to me. It was in the press pre-season that Coley had put some one to try and gain some more impact. Pryce We've not seen him play for 3 years.
Extra weight doesn't necessarily mean less speed if it's all managed correctly. I'm sure Jonh can bore us, erm I mean enlighten us with the details
Correct. Some of the fastest men in the world have a stocky build, it is all about the ability to produce power. Power is the ability to produce force quickly and is vital in producing explosive fact movement of the body, especially exelleration.
In order to generate power you need to work on strength, as power is the ability to produce strength over a short period of time. Strength is directly correlated with cross sectional area of muscle (muscle size) so in order to develop power the starting point is to build muscle size, you then convert the muscle size into strength and when that phase is completed work on converting that strength into power, ie producing the strenght quickly.
All a bit basic but it does explain the stocky builds, although each player has to be viewed as a stand alone athlete and there are other considerations to make before simply tyring to produce a team of square players.
I will now certainly change my sig to unofficially the most boaring poster on C & W.
Unofficially the most boring poster on Cherry and White.
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jonh wrote:Correct. Some of the fastest men in the world have a stocky build, it is all about the ability to produce power. Power is the ability to produce force quickly and is vital in producing explosive fact movement of the body, especially exelleration.
In order to generate power you need to work on strength, as power is the ability to produce strength over a short period of time. Strength is directly correlated with cross sectional area of muscle (muscle size) so in order to develop power the starting point is to build muscle size, you then convert the muscle size into strength and when that phase is completed work on converting that strength into power, ie producing the strenght quickly.
All a bit basic but it does explain the stocky builds, although each player has to be viewed as a stand alone athlete and there are other considerations to make before simply tyring to produce a team of square players.
I will now certainly change my sig to unofficially the most boaring poster on C & W.
You won't get any arguement from me
king warrior wrote:Adam Blair flew over yesterday and has been training the deal is going to be signed this week
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jackdog wrote:MR, IP are the obvious ones. Hansen, Fielden, O'Carroll, Pryce..all look weightier
I'm talking stocky,or stockier than before, not necessarily 'fat'.
Didn't think Hock was in that category. ..nor Sam Tomkins...
Players tend to bulk up in the off season and loose that weight over the coming season as in season training is aimed at maintaining fitness and strength.
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jonh wrote:Correct. Some of the fastest men in the world have a stocky build, it is all about the ability to produce power. Power is the ability to produce force quickly and is vital in producing explosive fact movement of the body, especially exelleration.
In order to generate power you need to work on strength, as power is the ability to produce strength over a short period of time. Strength is directly correlated with cross sectional area of muscle (muscle size) so in order to develop power the starting point is to build muscle size, you then convert the muscle size into strength and when that phase is completed work on converting that strength into power, ie producing the strenght quickly.
All a bit basic but it does explain the stocky builds, although each player has to be viewed as a stand alone athlete and there are other considerations to make before simply tyring to produce a team of square players.
I will now certainly change my sig to unofficially the most boaring poster on C & W.
To save me reading it, does he prefer red or brown sauce?
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oh and sauce 
didnt want people getting confused with Mr Leuluai
We've not seen him play for 3 years.
