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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:45 pm 
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How would you rank them in order?

I would go with

1. Tomkins
2. Hock (would be first if he had brain cells)
3. Hansen
4. Lockers
5. Bailey

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We have 5 first team backrowers, at times I feel we have one to many playing one too many(bench spot could be used for a prop (prescott/eamon if not startin) what do you think the pecking order should, best first and wost last mine would be,,

1.) Hock- game breaker at times( we dont have enough in our team)
2.) Tomkins- he current form has continued from last year, very solid tackler and make some great angled runs in attack. Future GB second row IMO
3.)O'loughin- Captain see loads of effort from him every match hard worker.
4.) Hansen- they dont call him hitman for nothing!!!
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5.) Bailey offers nothing in attack but as Tony Rae showed on BnA last year is very good at organising the side defencively but we have 3 great defenders above.


However Noble wont drop Bailey.

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fazwigan4eva wrote:We have 5 first team backrowers, at times I feel we have one to many playing one too many(bench spot could be used for a prop (prescott/eamon if not startin) what do you think the pecking order should, best first and wost last mine would be,,

1.) Hock- game breaker at times( we dont have enough in our team)
2.) Tomkins- he current form has continued from last year, very solid tackler and make some great angled runs in attack. Future GB second row IMO
3.)O'loughin- Captain see loads of effort from him every match hard worker.
4.) Hansen- they dont call him hitman for nothing!!!
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5.) Bailey offers nothing in attack but as Tony Rae showed on BnA last year is very good at organising the side defencively but we have 3 great defenders above.


However Noble wont drop Bailey.


agreed.

in fact i'd even have mossop over bailey.






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Mother Feka wrote:agreed.

in fact i'd even have mossop over bailey.


:lol: Maybe not seen enough of him at SL level to judge, seeing him in the reserve he has impressed though.

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1. Hock
2. O'Loughlin
3. Hansen
4. Tomkins
5. Bailey

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At the moment our best back rower...Infact player, is Sean O'Loughlin.

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1. o'Loughlin - Stable, strong in the tackle. Good support player.
2. Hock - Could be 1. if he gets his head together.
3. Joint a)Hansen - Work rate, attacking within last 20m
b) Tomkins - All round skills + potential. Could be a superstar if he carries on developing at this rate.
5. Bailey - Experienced, defensive but lack of vision and salary goes against the guy.






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1 - Lockers
2 - Tomkins
3 - Hock (would be higher but for lack of brains and dropped ball this season)
4 - Hansen
5 - Bailey






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My ideal back row would be Tomkins at 13, Hansen and Lockers in the 2nd row with Hock on the bench to come on as impact player.

I think this is ideal as Lockers is never a 13 and Tomkins is as he proved last season. Unfortunately Lockers position at 13 seems to be as unimpeachable as him being the captain and neither is best for the team or him IMO.

Of course there is about as much chance of Noble doing this as him leaving Bailey out of the side.

No disrespect to Bailey who is IMO underrated but even so Hansen, Hock, Lockers and Tomkins are the future and he isn't.

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1 Locky
2 Hock
3 Tomkins
4 Hansen
5 Bailey
6 Mossopp

My starting back row would be Hansen & Locky in 2nd row with Tomkins at 13 & Hock on the bench.
Altough Bailey is obviously better at the moment than Mossopp keeping him beyond his current contract is only going to hinder his potential as Mossopp should really be looking to break into the 17 by 2010. Ideally he should be getting the odd game in the first team now but can't really see that happening TBH

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