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 Post subject: Swinton
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:14 pm 
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Fancy us for this one but knowing our luck their DR with Saints will kick in and we’ll find ourselves up against it. Let’s see. Both Southern Hemisphere signings took their sweet time about turning up on match day but seem to have settled in really well and definitely of the standard so may be we can push on now.

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 Post subject: Re: Swinton
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:36 pm 
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BigTime wrote:Fancy us for this one but knowing our luck their DR with Saints will kick in and we’ll find ourselves up against it. Let’s see. Both Southern Hemisphere signings took their sweet time about turning up on match day but seem to have settled in really well and definitely of the standard so may be we can push on now.


We live in hope rather than expectation & this is Hughes' Cup Final so fingers crossed.

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 Post subject: Re: Swinton
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:00 am 
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It's less of a must win after our result against Newcastle last week but it's one we could, and perhaps should win.
Players should be feeling confident after two wins in a row.
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 Post subject: Re: Swinton
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:11 am 
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Should be putting these away, hopefully we continue the momentum this week and against Doncaster as we head into those tough April and May fixtures.

Will be interesting to see how Swinton go about it. They've had a couple of heavy scores put on them already this seasoon but I can see them coming down and throwing it about a bit. We have seemed to struggle at times against teams that play a bit more expansively.

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 Post subject: Re: Swinton
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:37 am 
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Need to win this,don't believe we have won at home yet, and with tricky games coming up, if we don't win this we could be yet again getting into may without any home wins (not counting cup game)

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 Post subject: Re: Swinton
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:16 pm 
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Knocker_White wrote:Should be putting these away, hopefully we continue the momentum this week and against Doncaster as we head into those tough April and May fixtures.

Will be interesting to see how Swinton go about it. They've had a couple of heavy scores put on them already this seasoon but I can see them coming down and throwing it about a bit. We have seemed to struggle at times against teams that play a bit more expansively.

Agreed. With our 2 overseas signings now in match day squad interesting to see if we look a better side and how much better. That notwithstanding I don’t fancy us for those 2 April games. Damage limitation sadly.
Key as Crash touches on is need for home wins. As only a handful turned up for the cup game we need a home win. Having said that our comms on this match has been very low battery. We’ll probably gear up for a big push for the Fev game where we get battered - driving another tranche of potential new fans away.

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 Post subject: Re: Swinton
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:50 pm 
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BigTime wrote:Agreed. With our 2 overseas signings now in match day squad interesting to see if we look a better side and how much better. That notwithstanding I don’t fancy us for those 2 April games. Damage limitation sadly.
Key as Crash touches on is need for home wins. As only a handful turned up for the cup game we need a home win. Having said that our comms on this match has been very low battery. We’ll probably gear up for a big push for the Fev game where we get battered - driving another tranche of potential new fans away.


A good point, you'd think we would've beaten the drum a bit more. I assume we are still resolving our social media issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Swinton
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:25 pm 
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Knocker_White wrote:A good point, you'd think we would've beaten the drum a bit more. I assume we are still resolving our social media issue.

Looking from the outside, and I accept there is a lot we aren’t privy to and much that goes on is hidden, it appears to me that the off season is the time to get a club’s ducks in a row on and off the field. Hand on heart I don’t think we can say we did.
Our recruitment quality wise looks good, numbers wide poor. I accept that we needed to get numbers off our books but one hopes money saved is reinvested at some stage. Off the field we seem to have realised match day experience was woeful so we’ve made some changes - shifting seating to opposite side of pitch, bringing in a couple of high end food vans and a bouncy castle. It a positive but it’s only a start. What next? What about all the other stuff? I don’t believe the way we launched our shirt - five and a half minutes before season started, was planned. Are the replica shirts available yet? The amount of merch on sale that I saw was very bijou and not overly thrilling. What about sponsors? That can’t be called a success. Look at. The Twitter account. Both Wayne and Stock have pictures saying they had good games. Do you see mention of any personal sponsors? Do they have them? If so give the sponsors some value.
What about the website? Does anyone periodically check it? We’re quite a few weeks in now I do think it should be in better shape and ideally ready to go at the start of the season. Will we ever have pictures of the players by their names? Team sheets- forget the programmes (that I thought were very well done but last seen in 2021) getting a copy of them is completely random. Remember back in the day someone like Chris Gale and Buck and Dusty would go to a local school? Don’t we do that anymore- last I recall was the Leyland brothers inKent and that was last season. And then to top it all off we have no match day SM comms or match day reports. I think it might be time for those who run the club just to have a state of play meeting and identify what has worked, what hasn’t and what needs doing. I think we’ll be able to say we’ve grown our crowds back up to about 1000 but that’s not 5000 or anywhere close. We went round shops in Wimbledon and got them to put up posters for free tickets. Not a bad idea although you have to charge at some stage. Did that work? Did we think about doing the same in nearby and quite busy Tooting Broadway?
Crikey we’ve got our work cut out. Lots of work to do.

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 Post subject: Re: Swinton
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:50 pm 
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BigTime wrote:Looking from the outside, and I accept there is a lot we aren’t privy to and much that goes on is hidden, it appears to me that the off season is the time to get a club’s ducks in a row on and off the field. Hand on heart I don’t think we can say we did.
Our recruitment quality wise looks good, numbers wide poor. I accept that we needed to get numbers off our books but one hopes money saved is reinvested at some stage. Off the field we seem to have realised match day experience was woeful so we’ve made some changes - shifting seating to opposite side of pitch, bringing in a couple of high end food vans and a bouncy castle. It a positive but it’s only a start. What next? What about all the other stuff? I don’t believe the way we launched our shirt - five and a half minutes before season started, was planned. Are the replica shirts available yet? The amount of merch on sale that I saw was very bijou and not overly thrilling. What about sponsors? That can’t be called a success. Look at. The Twitter account. Both Wayne and Stock have pictures saying they had good games. Do you see mention of any personal sponsors? Do they have them? If so give the sponsors some value.
What about the website? Does anyone periodically check it? We’re quite a few weeks in now I do think it should be in better shape and ideally ready to go at the start of the season. Will we ever have pictures of the players by their names? Team sheets- forget the programmes (that I thought were very well done but last seen in 2021) getting a copy of them is completely random. Remember back in the day someone like Chris Gale and Buck and Dusty would go to a local school? Don’t we do that anymore- last I recall was the Leyland brothers inKent and that was last season. And then to top it all off we have no match day SM comms or match day reports. I think it might be time for those who run the club just to have a state of play meeting and identify what has worked, what hasn’t and what needs doing. I think we’ll be able to say we’ve grown our crowds back up to about 1000 but that’s not 5000 or anywhere close. We went round shops in Wimbledon and got them to put up posters for free tickets. Not a bad idea although you have to charge at some stage. Did that work? Did we think about doing the same in nearby and quite busy Tooting Broadway?
Crikey we’ve got our work cut out. Lots of work to do.


Can't disagree with any of that. It would be much more palatable if the owner or one of the higher ups came out and actually engaged with the fan base, gave us an insight into what they are thinking and where they see the club going. The silence toward the fans is deafening and I feel increasingly insulting. I like Eccles and he's doing the best he can, but he keeps referring to 'the plan'. What does that ultimately mean? If the owner came out and said we are in a rebuild, there will be limited investment for a period as we develop a group of players to move forward with, I could handle that and accept it. At the minute we are just in stasis, as has been said before.
Take any of the other expansion clubs, Midlands, Cornwall, Toulouse, they absolutely slay us when it comes to quality of engagement. Listen to their owners, chairperson, coaches speak or read an interview and they speak with clarity and purpose, you can feel they have something they are working towards. We are just a shell of something at the minute, not doing anything particularly effectively or with any real conviction.

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 Post subject: Re: Swinton
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:59 pm 
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Knocker_White wrote:Can't disagree with any of that. It would be much more palatable if the owner or one of the higher ups came out and actually engaged with the fan base, gave us an insight into what they are thinking and where they see the club going. The silence toward the fans is deafening and I feel increasingly insulting. I like Eccles and he's doing the best he can, but he keeps referring to 'the plan'. What does that ultimately mean? If the owner came out and said we are in a rebuild, there will be limited investment for a period as we develop a group of players to move forward with, I could handle that and accept it. At the minute we are just in stasis, as has been said before.
Take any of the other expansion clubs, Midlands, Cornwall, Toulouse, they absolutely slay us when it comes to quality of engagement. Listen to their owners, chairperson, coaches speak or read an interview and they speak with clarity and purpose, you can feel they have something they are working towards. We are just a shell of something at the minute, not doing anything particularly effectively or with any real conviction.


Cant remember the last time we had a state of play from the management. Have they done it this season? Maybe there was something telling us about the Fan Zone. Maybe before we decamp for months away from SW London we could have an update.

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