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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:00 am 
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according to Rugby league week nathan fien is on the verge of accepting a big offer to join the club.

the return of stacey jones to the warriors plays a big part in it as fien saw himself as the long term half back and he doesnt want to play 2nd fiddle any more.

fiens manager jim banaghan "there is an offer of 3 years on the table from huddersfield ... and a very good one. the warriors have some issues to address cant give us an answer until may so nathan may end up taking the deal that is there from huddersfield".

warriors boss wayne scurrah "it would be very hard for us to match (the giants offer). footballers have a very short career span and nathan is looking for that last big contract and we wouldnt stand in his way, even though we would hate to see him go. but if the huddersfield deal falls through for any reason we would be very keen to talk with nathan again"

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I would be pleased to get him a quality player who could play 7 or 9 or even 6 at a push. My only concern is a 3 year deal for a 30 year old. What is your view Dally and does he have a history of any health problems. I look at Steve Menzies a great player but physically he does not seem to be able to do the task Bradford have for him.

It may be that with players around him this si not a problem however.

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looks like we wont be getting fien unless we pay even more now.


Quote:Banaghan, who represents Monaghan, also warned that another of his clients, New Zealand scrum-half Nathan Fien, will pull out of a proposed move to Huddersfield next season unless the Giants can come up with "government-approved financial arrangements".


Quote:"Players never went there for the weather," he added. "Any manager with brains will keep his clients in the NRL system in this climate and not try to be too smart. They'll come flooding back."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 90,00.html
looks like we wont be getting fien unless we pay even more now.


Quote:Banaghan, who represents Monaghan, also warned that another of his clients, New Zealand scrum-half Nathan Fien, will pull out of a proposed move to Huddersfield next season unless the Giants can come up with "government-approved financial arrangements".


Quote:"Players never went there for the weather," he added. "Any manager with brains will keep his clients in the NRL system in this climate and not try to be too smart. They'll come flooding back."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 90,00.html






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meh

Manager tries to get as much as possible for his client and threatens player will walk away if its not enough, no real shock

Personally someone should point out that Feins career is coming to an end and he wont be worth that much...

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elyob wrote:looks like we wont be getting fien unless we pay even more now.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 90,00.html


Well I can see Richard Thewlis saying if he wants to play for giants then this is amount we will agree on, if not, sorry no deal. IMO Giants cannot be held ransom by the NRL players.
elyob wrote:looks like we wont be getting fien unless we pay even more now.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 90,00.html


Well I can see Richard Thewlis saying if he wants to play for giants then this is amount we will agree on, if not, sorry no deal. IMO Giants cannot be held ransom by the NRL players.






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COCKNEY GIANT wrote:Well I can see Richard Thewlis saying if he wants to play for giants then this is amount we will agree on, if not, sorry no deal. IMO Giants cannot be held ransom by the NRL players.


dead right.

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And assuming the Giants we above board there will be no difference anyway.

Managers job is to get the most amount of money for a player and therefore themselves - hence keep them in the press as available and open to offers.

In effect he is telling another SL club to offer 12% more.






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Obviously we have three people here in employment/ not "desperate" who on applying for a vacancy wouldnt quote a salary they think theyre worth - but would accept what they were offered
I have doubts !

In addition better "staff" - better reults- and the end result is "the company" - or club gains.

A friend of mine who stuck out for the 55k per annum HE thought he was worth - and got it after some tough talking -has subsequently obtained customer contracts of 1.5 million - and 2.5 (over the next 2 years )
I bet theyre really regretting agreeing to his figure !!

The cheaper option isnt always the best
Poorer players- poorer results -poorer crowd figures

Think about it

He doesnt yet play for us - so cant be holding us to ransome
Its a question of reaching a deal that makes both parties happy - like most would do when applying - or been approached - for a job --surely??


Or maybe I`m missing something ??
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Yes you are missing something

We dont need him

His quality is going to be in question given his age and duration of contract

We already know it is a "very good offer"

He isnt the one making spurious demands that ultimately dont mean anything, what is a "government approved financial arrangement" anyway?

As far as I am aware, the government doesnt approve anything per se, unless he means legal under UK tax legislation, and I would hope all our arrangements are thus.

If this player plays for us then good, if not, nothing lost.

Maybe someone better will become available...after all if he is second fiddle to a retired player, he aint that much cop.

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