As both learned there first team professional trade at other clubs in real terms.

The worrying thing is at the moment you have very little coming through behind Cudjoe and Lawrence, the culture has changed regards development in the last year at Hudds yet the progress has not followed.

Wrong again - Jackson was a 1st team regular till he moved to wakefield.
Look at our Reserves and then the 1st team squad members we have out on loan at other clubs - there is plenty there for the Future dont you worry

Like who?

Adam Walker is a good lad with potential. Jerry McGillevary is a great runner but is very raw and i do not think he has the skill set to make it in SL, hope i am wrong as he is a great lad.

Hemmingway will not be a Sl player.

Lopag, cannot see it, average at best. The backbone of your reserves are in players like Beefy, Glasshill, Donlan, all who appreciate they do not have a Sl future.

Below that there are lads like Ed Barber and Nathan Chapel who have a long way to go, great in age group but questions over there attitude.

You do have 2 great talents in Lawrence and Cudjoe realistically after that there is a major dearth in talent and despite the backroom changes this does not seem like it is going to change.

You do have in my opinion the brightest prospect in the game in the area, but I doubt he will be in the Hudds system for long beyond scholarship, with the big clubs already courting his signature.

I'm thinking of the likes of Mcnally, Carlile, Patrick, Lawson, McGilvary, Walsh, Etc

McNally is the brightest prospect in that bunch, in my opinion non of the others will make it as front line SL players.

Wigan are basically slated by those who are ignorant for producing lots of Sl standard players. In the modern day it is unrealistic to assume we can retain them all, its a shame the cap does not reward this rather than penalising a successful youth system.

In reality Wigan are slated for releasing some players but when it comes to naming them who have gone on to bigger and better things the examples are few and far between.

Im giving up my support on the strength of that

No need to give up your support, it is only my opinion. A very well educated one but just my opinion non the less.

Wigan should be ashamed of themselves!!

I'd say Huddersfield are doing fine. Above good old Wigun in the table and have had a good challenge cup final to attend since you lot last did

Worry about your own club before criticising others.

My team Wigan are 3 moves from being a top competitive side again. Hudds are doing great, at first team level, but are struggling behind that, realistically they are still some way off being a potential trophy winning side, but to be fair are moving in the right direction.

Academy and reserves both made play offs last season and one game away from the reserve GF. Reserves currently 3rd this time and the juniors struggling a tad but mainly due to physical maturity as much as any other factor.

Things aren't as bleak as some would like to think.