I think that's probably where you lost him.

Spot on. Some chose to read the first paragraph, had a paddy, didn't read the rest of it.

That's what happens when you get the rep for being the forum doink!

I think Vasty was being ambivalent about the second part of his post which was suggesting that we could be dirty or we could be tough or manly. the issue was that it is something you deal with rather than doing a Matterson about.

Hence I went and had a look and to be honest after the one way traffic of Castleford it's en inevitable we will concede penalties and have people on report - they had 67% of the ball.

DG I think that even there Vasty has got it wrong. Matterson should raise an issue like grapple tackles withe RFL if that is what he believes. he should 'run to teacher'. He should do it professionally and discretely. When TM blubbed to the press he got it wrong.

Clearly he got it wrong if the RFL don't back him.

Oh and thanks for being one of the normal suspects true to form. you're so easy nursy

Had to spoil it, where has the love gone

Yes as far as I'm concerned Hudds under Smith were physical borderline dirty though barely comparable to the early 70's teams.

Now they appear a little more physical than last year from what I have seen but not much and in all honesty and well within the bounderies as I see them. There will always be physical teams in the competition if you can't at least attempt to face up to them (even if you fail) then you really don't belong.

What TM really needs to do is fire his team up a bit more and front it out, moaning to the press won't help.

That said I've no doubt Brown will have a good and unjustified winge at some point, he is an Aussie thay can't help it. Ditto Kear will play his mind games at some point when it suits, he's a coach. His turn will probably come should Hudds rough us up next time we play, so will I that's how it goes. If it goes the other way he and I won't say a word.

One things for sure I would listen to Kear, Brown and Matterson moan 24/7 rather than ever have to listen to a Jon Sharp self pitying blubathon ever again.

Am I easy for you big boy? Oh dear

Is posting a 'manly' thing vasty? You would never run to teacher would you ? You clearly know stuff all about the wildcats and your knowledge about the Giants is even less. But you are a 'man's man' so you will need to plod on and waffle some more.

Anyone want to see how rattled Vasty can get should look at the Winterstein thread on the VT. Poor thing was sick to the pit of his stomach.

I'll give it another 6-8 posts