Hilarious stuff.

Both Hudds and Hull won by playing well. Having seen both games I'm struggling to see how you can claim that Saints were any worse than Bratfud. Try opening your other eye.

WTF are you on about?

I said you played well, better than we did (who I described as okay). What more do you want? A medal? A biscuit? If you think beating Saints after they played like that, first game of the season, is any real indicator of how this season will go especially after how your season went last time then I think it's you that needs to open the other eye.

Saints were gash. Bradford weren't much better. EOS.

Dude. Saints gameplan went out the window when they lost 2 players. If you think that they wanted to play with Roby on the win and keep Moore on all game?

I agree, Saints were poor, but how much of it was down to us completely shutting them down? It's hard to tell. Yes, the injuries will have made an impact, but they still had plenty of match winners our there. Eastmond for example had absolutely zero impact on the game. I know friendlies aren't the best thing to judge a performance on but we played as well as we did against Saints against Rovers imo. The pack totally dominated and we looked full of ideas when we got near their line, we just lacked that final pass from time to time. I think the Hull fans are getting a little carried away because of what we had to endure last season. It was always going to happen that a couple of wins and everyone would get excited again. Personally, whilst I think we will win tonight, I do have a slight feeling that we might be brought down to earth tonight. Like I said Saints were poor, and tonight I fear we might get shown just how much of it was down to us making them look bad and how much it was them just being bad. On the other hand if we win again with another convincing performance I will start to get very optimistic for the season ahead. Especially as our next 2 after you and Crusaders and Quins.

In that case I misunderstood your post, and I apologise. As for the rest of the season, I have pretty modest expectations TBH. Although the way we played, rather than the result itself, makes me reasonably optimistic of a decent season. Last year we won our first 5 games without ever playing as well as we did last week.

And FWIW I expect tonight to be a tougher test for us that last week was, for a variety of reasons. Hudds will be a top 4 side again this season IMO and could easily finish ahead of Saints.

No probs.

FWIW you did play well last week but I think you can and will play better. I think that Hull FC will make the play offs comfortably.

As for us, 6th upwards and I'll be very pleased. I just hope we're in good nick at play off time, assuming we get to the play offs. Some good luck in the CC and finally winning it would be nice too! One day...

Hull should win tonight. For me it is about overall performance. If the Giants compete well then it bodes well for 2010. Hull have a very good starting 17 and some squad depth and a decent assistant coach. They are a top 6 side. The Giants are up to 5 players down on the likely first 17 (Fatz/Drew/Mason/Kirmond/Wild).

At one time being 5 down against the Hull 17 tonight would have meant a certain thrashing.

If the Giants were to win / get within 6 points then a top 2 finish would be achievable.

Your arguement was going well until that point. The ref from my experience over many many years of watching the game is as good or bad for both teams on the pitch.

I would suggest that the bookies make FC favs due to having 12000 fans cheering them on in their own back yard. We have arguably the two biggest packs in the league up against each other, though the Giants have a couple of injuries where as we have a full strength pack to choose from.
In the backs its the master v Robinson at sh. A Hull back line with a great mix of experience and youth with cracking pace. Your back line is much the same. I would not trade our backs for yours and I am certain you would say the same about your backline.
Tonight has the potential for being a cracker. I hope you all travel in big numbers to see what could be one of the games of the season.
Don't look to the FC class of 09 for pointers on this. The squad has a complete new look and the attitude within the club is much more professional. Thats why we as FC fans are far more optimistic. Only the naive think we will win the SL this year, but top 4 is there for the taking. In the same way it was for Giants and HKR last year.
I hope you enjoy your experience at the KC tonight and may the best team win, providing they are in B&W

I too have watched the game for years and watched Fartown when we nearly folded, back then the reffing standard was about the same as it is now, the likes of Steve Cross were no better or worse than Steve Ganson, only problem is they are now full time proffesionals!!!!!

Sorry but ya need to get Sky+ and watch the match again. Robbo was sent off for the same thing L'Estrange did from 1st whistle to last, the Giants were warned about it the Dulls were not, make up your own conclusion from this.

We have the same problem week in week out with the likes of Ganson and you too should know how this feels not being classed as one of the so called big teams.

We are not asking for decisions to go unfairly in our favour just a fair crack of the whip (Wembley last year and Lunt's dissallowed try!!)

This season it will all change IMO and teams like Hull and Huddersfield will start being recognised as equals to teams like Whino's and Stains and finally get a level playing field (long ovedue), which can only be a positive move and good for the fans.

As for tonights game I hope it lives up to being a real cracker and the best team on the night wins fairly and squarely, whatever colours they are sporting.

giants 6/4 to win tonight... quite big really

gilmour 25/1
lunt 22/1

first tryscoring prices.. worth a punt