Grand Final:

Wigan 13/8
St Helens 5/1
Warrington 5/1
HKR 6/1
Leeds 10/1
Catalan 12/1
Leigh 20/1
Salford 33/1
Hull 40/1
Huddersfield 50/1
Castleford 66/1
Wakefield 66/1

Challenge Cup:

Wigan 11/4
St Helens 9/2
Warrington 5/1
HKR 7/1
Leeds 9/1
Catalan 12/1
Leigh 16/1
Huddersfield 25/1
Hull 25/1
Salford 25/1
Castleford 40/1
Wakefield 40/1
200/1 Bar

I cant see Hull kr troubling the grand final next season, but they might go all out for the cup to shut their neighbours up about their 40 year trophy drought. 7/1 looks good value to me.

I was thinking the odds for HKR for either of the comps is pretty big considering their recruitment for next season.

Their 2 best players in the grand final have left the club though.

Wigan or saints for grand final same every year and can't see anything different for next year..challenge cup anything can happen

Not convinced Saints will do much damage. They will start brightly and the backs are decent….not so sure on their pack at all. I think the belief that Briers is the messiah is also misguided.

Just had a look at the HKR signings and apart from Hargreaves I’m not overly convinced they will be as good or better next season.

JWH is clearly a top level player, but I worry how he will cope with our refs/judiciary.

Australia -12 is a banker v NZ having seen the new Zealand side. They must be missing about 10 players! Including both half backs, centres and their hooker.

I think Hull KR have recruited really well. Waerea-Hargreaves, Tom Davies, McIlorum and Rhyse Martin all add a lot of quality, although it's very much a 'win now' policy, given their ages. Compared to us signing Leyland, Russell and Jacko from Brush Strokes, I know whose recruitment looks better.