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 Post subject: Ben Currie new contract thread.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:20 pm 
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Thought a 3 year deal might generate some discussion. I guess he came at the right price as he’s club-reared. Not sure what sort of dispensation we get on that, but hopefully the early season form can be rekindled combining with Williams.

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... on-wolves/
Thought a 3 year deal might generate some discussion. I guess he came at the right price as he’s club-reared. Not sure what sort of dispensation we get on that, but hopefully the early season form can be rekindled combining with Williams.

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... on-wolves/

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 Post subject: Re: No Currie thread?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:25 pm 
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It's in the Recruitment and Retention thread. Good news all round. Getting the core of a long term squad in place.

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 Post subject: Re: No Currie thread?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:36 pm 
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Douglas Black wrote:It's in the Recruitment and Retention thread. Good news all round. Getting the core of a long term squad in place.


So it is. Cheers.

I think I made the assumption that all hot ttopics get locked for in-fighting, and didn’t check.

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 Post subject: Re: No Currie thread?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:19 pm 
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I hope he's really really cheap.






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 Post subject: Re: No Currie thread?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:59 am 
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At this stage i'm not convinced he's worth three years because he is not exactly a worker within the team and won't be able/want to modify his game as he gets older to compensate for the current speed element that will likely disappear in that agreed time frame reducing him to potentially another highly paid passenger on the books

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 Post subject: Re: No Currie thread?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:41 am 
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Nantwich One wrote:At this stage i'm not convinced he's worth three years because he is not exactly a worker within the team and won't be able/want to modify his game as he gets older to compensate for the current speed element that will likely disappear in that agreed time frame reducing him to potentially another highly paid passenger on the books


I don't think he will be 'highly-paid' in terms of cap space allocation, due to club-trained dispensations. So probably a low-risk investment. We could have wasted that money on somebody like Sironen, at greater cost on the cap.

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 Post subject: Re: No Currie thread?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:17 am 
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Still think he's a shadow of the player he was before his injuries. But he still shows the odd flash of brilliance every few games. Hard to see who you could fill that spot with. If you'd asked me last year I'd have said Chris McQueen, but he's been anonymous this year when I've watched Udds. Does that speak volumes about how when a whole squad is struggling the individuals don't stand out? I don't know.

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 Post subject: Re: No Currie thread?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:25 am 
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I have always been a big fan of Curries but when we are not playing well I try and keep that quiet because when we are not getting results he is one of the first under the microscope.
He is a quality player and is probably in the top 4 second rowers eligible for the England team along with Farrell, Bachelor and Whitehead.

Looking at his chase back against Catalan in the first game he doesn't look like he has lost a lot of speed after the two knee reconstructions.
It must have been pretty tough mentally to recover from one knee reconstructions then to do it again. That sort of thing must get you down.
So to play in a world cup final then recover from those injuries to get a place back in the England team is pretty good going.

I think last year was a mess and there are not many players that come out of that looking good.

But it is funny how some players look worse in defeat than others do. For example if the England football team were getting a spanking it would probably be unlikely that Stuart Pearce would be questioned. However if the team Ashley Cole was playing in got beat then Cole would probably be criticized. Would be the same with Gazza / John Barnes. Widely recognized that Cole was a better player but because Pearce is full of "passion" (over rated word in sport IMHO) and he appears to get stuck in he comes out of a defeat looking better.
It would be similar with Westwood. He plays like he looks like he cares whereas I can see why some people might have a different opinion on Currie just by the way he plays.

I reckon a Currie is a coaches dream. Hardly any errors, hardly gives penalties away, Looks after himself, apart from the 2 big ones he misses very few games, never in front of the match review panel.
I am pretty happy he is here for a few more years.

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 Post subject: Re: No Currie thread?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:40 am 
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Deus Dat Incrementum wrote:I have always been a big fan of Curries but when we are not playing well I try and keep that quiet because when we are not getting results he is one of the first under the microscope.
He is a quality player and is probably in the top 4 second rowers eligible for the England team along with Farrell, Bachelor and Whitehead.

Looking at his chase back against Catalan in the first game he doesn't look like he has lost a lot of speed after the two knee reconstructions.
It must have been pretty tough mentally to recover from one knee reconstructions then to do it again. That sort of thing must get you down.
So to play in a world cup final then recover from those injuries to get a place back in the England team is pretty good going.

I think last year was a mess and there are not many players that come out of that looking good.

But it is funny how some players look worse in defeat than others do. For example if the England football team were getting a spanking it would probably be unlikely that Stuart Pearce would be questioned. However if the team Ashley Cole was playing in got beat then Cole would probably be criticized. Would be the same with Gazza / John Barnes. Widely recognized that Cole was a better player but because Pearce is full of "passion" (over rated word in sport IMHO) and he appears to get stuck in he comes out of a defeat looking better.
It would be similar with Westwood. He plays like he looks like he cares whereas I can see why some people might have a different opinion on Currie just by the way he plays.

I reckon a Currie is a coaches dream. Hardly any errors, hardly gives penalties away, Looks after himself, apart from the 2 big ones he misses very few games, never in front of the match review panel.
I am pretty happy he is here for a few more years.


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 Post subject: Re: No Currie thread?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:22 pm 
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Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:passive defensively


I dont get where this comes from, he's always up there defensively. Stats below are from our first loss.

Saints and Wakefield weren't great but there were a few with poor stats.

The only people ever ahead of him are hooker, loose and props which is to be expected.

Huddersfield

21 Tackles - 4th highest
2 Missed - ties 4th with 4 others


Hull

28 Tackles - 6th highest
2 missed - 8th highest

Leigh

29 tackles - 4th highest
1 missed - joint 7th with 5 others

Hull Kr

24 Tacles - 6th highest
0 Missed

Wakefield

25 Tackles- 6th in team
4 missed - ties most

Saints

27 Tackles - 4th highest
3 missed - tied 2nd with 3 others

Wigan

47 Tackles - 3rd on team
0 missed

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