Really dreading this game.

Defence V Wigan was brilliant that's my only positive note from last night.

Surely Tony Smith has to start Matty Russell in this one. Drop Myler place O'Brien & Ratchford in the halfs. Hopefully Woody is available for this one. I would give Rhys Evans ago instead of Atkins. Give Dwyer ago instead of Michael Monaghan.

I still can't see us winning. The're on a different page than us atm.

Now let us pray...

The Giants best chance in a few years to end their losing streak against us.

If I expected the matchday 17 to be shook up, some new faces to get a well-deserved and much-needed chance, some retribution and home truths to be dished out and egos bruised as a result then I might allow myself a glimmer of hope .......... but I don't expect any of these to happen, and I fear a hiding tbh.

Me neither.

Saints aside our defence has been ok for the most part but mistakes have cost us. As soon as our attack looks structured and organised then we will turn some good teams over. We were far too predictable last night 5 drives and a kick to 2 wingers and a fullback, a couple of kicks on the 3rd or 4th in the first half like we did in the second and our field position may have been a little better and Wigan under more pressure.

At our current level, don't see Warrington taking points from Leeds Saints Wigan Huddersfield Castleford Wakefield and Hull away.

26 from a total of 48 points that would leave us with 22 points.
That would leave us out of the top 8.
Around 9th or 10th.

I can't give myself an argument to think otherwise.
To say we will improve enough to take points against them is strictly guess work at this time.

Hopefully, Huddersfield will fly back from the their game V Catalan tomorrow with Malaysian Airlines.

Therein lies our best chance.

Huddersfield are going to tear us a new one however Sunday can't come quick enough, I will be on the 0945 train from Central to Huddersfield with a stop off at Staleybridge, always a great day!

To say we won't is strictly guesswork at this time.

Regardless of a few performances that have let's face it been poorer than we have got used to, I still love the wire as much as I did yesterday, as much as I did after the past 2 grand finals, as much as I did after the 3 challenge cups and the lls, as much as I did after my first game in 1989. I guess my level of expectation is a bit lower this season but Leeds won from 5th when they were poor and dysfunctional all season. Until we are out I will never write a tony smith wire side off any trophy (except this years lls).

Super fan badge on its way in the post, sir.

im sure you will hit your straps next week... you usually do against us!!

GOB is the one to make way for me. Myler is far from his best, but GOB was anonymous vs Wigan and hasn't kicked in from the Leeds game. He hasn't done enough to take his chance.

Russell
Monas
Bridge
Evans (but think Atkins will be given the nod)
Ormsby
Ratchford
Myler
Hill
Higham
Asotasi
Waterhouse
Westwood
Grix

Monas
Wood
England
Laithwaite

Won't Ben Westwood get banned for his shoulder charge early doors the other night? No different from what Chev Walker got banned for last Sunday ?

Benny has been 'lucky' with the disciplinary board be interesting to see if it continues ?

It will be an interesting pick for TS. He has already hinted that Matty will start so that does seem to imply we will now see an extended run of games with Myler and Ratchford as the half back combination. If that does not work, It will be fascinating to see what he tries next - because I can not think of another realistic option. Yes, presumably Woody will come back, and yes I assume Laithwaite will continue, but for me this is all a side show compared to the problems at half back. We have morphed into Saints 2013.

I cant see anything but a convincing win for the wire. 32-12

You must be a troll

Really crap one

Give over....
Nothing is set in stone.
And my post said under current form.
Can anyone seriously see, carrying the current form on from the performances v Wigan, v Hull, v London, v Saints at this time, seeing Warrington taking a point from the games I listed?

If you do you've had your head in the sand since February Sir.

Yeah because were great this time last year..oh wait we werent and our results fixture wise are same bar we beat Hull at home instead of lost and lost to Wigan instead of won

We will improve as the season goes on if we dont get key injuries am 100% sure of that.

The key difference between this year and last year at this stage of the season is last year you looked at the playing roster and you knew people would improve, and that we had too much quality across the squad to continue to struggle. This year, I'm looking at players and wondering which have any improvement in them, who has yet to play who will make a substantial difference, and which aspects of our play, when mended, will reverse our fortunes.

And I'm struggling to see where a dramatic improvement is going to come from, and make no mistake, we need to improve dramatically.

Well Russell hasnt started a game yet, he improves the team and has a knock on effect with Ratchford going into the halves.

We have new combos that will take time but we have already shown we have enough for the "lesser sides" even playing poor, Thursday was a joke in attack but theres more to come and we always have been a warm weather team, I think you will see a more confident Wire attack in few months, its nearly12 months since the first of two Widnes defeats, blips happen we havent turned into a team outside the 8 in few months.

We wont win at Wakey or Cas? Arf

They must of turned into Sydney Roosters in a few months