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Post subject: Re: Who do we want in the play-offs?

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:03 pm

Smiffy27

International Star

Joined: Jul 22 2010
Posts: 2913
Location: Appleton Thorn

Wires71 wrote:The point is that we signalled we had sacrificed the 2 points, before the game had even started, to protect players for the following week. That is not respecting the league. The fact we got so close losing by one point is a testament to the young players who gave a great account of themselves. As it turned out it was a complete and utter backfire as not only have we missed out on a shot at the LLS, we stank Wembley out the following week anyway.

I feel if we had played our best side we would have stood a better chance of winning the game.

It is a big assumption that our "best team" might have done better. If you are playing a game but thinking of keeping out of trouble you cannot give your best. Wigan big guns had one eye on Wembley too ... our young guns were good but they could play without fear of missing Wembley.
I get your point. I too was very disappointed with our performance in the final but I do not think it was anything to do with being rested.

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Post subject: Re: Who do we want in the play-offs?

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:59 pm

Wires71

Player Coach

Joined: Jun 25 2006
Posts: 14132
Location: Forum21

Smiffy27 wrote:It is a big assumption that our "best team" might have done better. If you are playing a game but thinking of keeping out of trouble you cannot give your best. Wigan big guns had one eye on Wembley too ... our young guns were good but they could play without fear of missing Wembley.
I get your point. I too was very disappointed with our performance in the final but I do not think it was anything to do with being rested.

Fair enough. I never made the point that the final performance was due to being rested* but I do believe if we valued the 2 points we play our strongest side in that Wigan game.

As an aside the club will need to get used to competing in successive games with the strongest side.

*neither do I buy the lack of big game experience either. We had enough international or experienced players out there. One of Wigans try scorers had only played a handful of games too.

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Post subject: Re: Who do we want in the play-offs?

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:52 pm

Moe syslak

Player Coach

Joined: Feb 23 2009
Posts: 2407
Location: Springfield

Our away form is better than our home form. Winning the LLS wouldn't have made me confident of winning the big one. Finishing 3rd and hopefully getting through to play 2nd away will do me nicely.

'I've done things i'm not proud of. And the things i am proud of,.......well they're disgusting'

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Post subject: Re: Who do we want in the play-offs?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:34 am

Wires71

Player Coach

Joined: Jun 25 2006
Posts: 14132
Location: Forum21

Moe syslak wrote:Our away form is better than our home form. Winning the LLS wouldn't have made me confident of winning the big one. Finishing 3rd and hopefully getting through to play 2nd away will do me nicely.

I'm of the same view. We have won the LLS before and failed when it matters, it is no guarantee at all.

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Post subject: Re: Who do we want in the play-offs?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:37 am

Captain Hook

Club Captain

Joined: Jul 17 2015
Posts: 4682
Location: Sitting on the naughty step

Still think the experience of the Saints and Leigh games where we were down to 12 men could prove crucial in tight play off matches. Fingers and everything else already crossed.

Just my opinions unless it's a FACT, in which case it's a fact.

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Post subject: Re: Who do we want in the play-offs?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:07 am

Douglas Black

First Team Player

Joined: Dec 18 2020
Posts: 1086

So, it's St Helens.

And if we win that a trip to Hull KR.

And if we win that a GF against Wigan/Leigh/Salford.

It can't be a Wigan vs Sts final now.

We haven't conceded a try for 267 minutes. Almost 4 and a half hours of rugby.

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Post subject: Re: Who do we want in the play-offs?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:47 am

Kwik Fertle

Club Captain

Joined: Jan 20 2018
Posts: 23

Just hope a controversial early red card doesn’t decide one of the biggest games of the season (especially ours). You take it if it’s the opposition getting one but devastating when it’s one of your own. May the best team win in each game.

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Post subject: Re: Who do we want in the play-offs?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:27 am

Wires71

Player Coach

Joined: Jun 25 2006
Posts: 14132
Location: Forum21

Douglas Black wrote:
We haven't conceded a try for 267 minutes. Almost 4 and a half hours of rugby.

The improvement in defence has coincided with the introduction of Bateman. I don't know if it's causal but he does a lot of tackling.

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Post subject: Re: Who do we want in the play-offs?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:42 am

Boss Hog

International Chairman

Joined: Mar 24 2013
Posts: 34224

Wires71 wrote:The improvement in defence has coincided with the introduction of Bateman. I don't know if it's causal but he does a lot of tackling.

I noticed that after our Wembley loss, there is a different style of play since then that we have adopted.

We are definitely more focused on defence now than we were before.

Maybe Burgess thinks this will give us a better chance of winning at Old Trafford?

I saw a TV interview where he quoted that the teams with the best league defensive records had been successful in winning the GF in the majority of times.

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Post subject: Re: Who do we want in the play-offs?

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:09 pm

Howfenwire

Junior Player

Joined: Apr 06 2024
Posts: 79

Relishing the chance for a change. Usually i would be like yes lets avoid this team but nope this year im more confident.

However be a tough ask to be saints well anybody really 4 times in a season!.Then onto Hull KR if we get through.

The if we beat Hull and then Wigan no one can say we had easy games and will definately be the worthy winners.

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