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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:23 pm

getdownmonkeyman

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mark_m wrote:I thought we had established the fact that just because something or someone works in Australia it doesn't necessarily work over here.

I think it is fair to say the NRL is more defence orientated than SL, so if he is going to be exposed as a poor carrier of the ball it would be there. I don't recall him having an issue with his ball retention there.

Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:24 pm

getdownmonkeyman

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Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:Good point well made, King played on the Wing for Melbourne and was very successful in playing in that position so is it not the fault of the coach for playing King out of position in the first place
Although King was playing out of position i don't believe he was a liability and it certainly isn't a fact.
I would also like to reiterate that saying Penny is a weak defender is my opinion and if you watch the academy games, he isn't that strong in defence there either.

NO HE DIDN'T.

Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:33 pm

Latchford Wolvesfan

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getdownmonkeyman wrote:NO HE DIDN'T.

My mistake, not Melbourne, New South Wales scored a Hat-trick in the 3rd game.

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:38 pm

Birch24

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How can u say are defense is better without penny on the field when we got 64 put past us last week and lost the last 5 games

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:43 pm

Dico

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To be fair in a one on one defending position i'd have more confidence in King than Penny but I take your point

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:59 am

Bobby_Peru

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Suffice to say that King had one of his best games in a Wire shirt and hopefully can now show why we brought him to the club in the first place.

His try where he reached up/caught/placed down in one flowing motion is one if the seasons highlights for mine thus far.

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Post subject: what happened to the singing

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:23 am

the original stevo

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i read here there would be endless singing etc what happened?????????????

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:36 am

The Phoenix 09

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Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:None of last weeks tries were scored down King's wing and none this week either, Penny was the problem.

Yet last week he took most of the abuse, although manley from so called fans who had clearly been on the mickey from god knows what time, wonder if they were singing his praises this week..........Fickle or what :?:

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:37 am

Thelonius

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Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:No not saying that at all, just saying our defense seems to be weaker with him playing IMO.

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

With Penny on the field this season we have conceded an average of 0.19 points per minute, which would work out at 15 points per game.

With Penny in the stands we have conceded an average of 0.47 points per minute, or 37.3 per game.

I'm not trying to claim Penny is defensively sound, or that King is weak. Just pointing out that stats can be used/twisted to show whatever you want them to.

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:41 am

Dico

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You don't need statistics to see he can't remotely tackle one on one.
Still, I'd have him in the team imo

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