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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:06 pm 
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Wires71 wrote:We have a long established track record of the following sequence with young players.

1. Promising youth player. Lots of hyperbole and exaggerated claims. 1st team contract.
2. Debut
3. Loan
4. Lots of argument about why they are not getting selected.
4. Another loan, maybe a few more games.
5. Exit to lower league.

As a teaser name the players in the last 25 years who have followed this sequence.

1. Promising youth player. 1st team contract.
2. Debut
3. Wins starting jersey / 1st pick.
4. International representation.

I can think of Phibin, Mike Cooper, Currie doesn't count as he wasn't home grown. Which others?


We have focused in the past on signing established players at the expense of developing our own players which was folly in a game that has a Salary Cap.

Some signings could be be classed in the vanity category but that was the prerogative of the guy who owned the club and we clearly missed having a Director of Rugby on our Board until Chambers was appointed.

Currie played for our Academy so I don`t understand why he doesn`t count in your post as a Wire developed player, as does Toby King who you haven`t included.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment, rumours and links
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:43 pm 
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Just my opinions unless it's a FACT, in which case it's a fact.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment, rumours and links
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:15 pm 
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Captain Hook wrote:Rhys Evans?


Yes 3 games for Wales. :CLAP:

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Chris Riley (England Knights 2012) ?

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment, rumours and links
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:22 pm 
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Josh Thelwis made the England squad in 2023 if that counts....?

I guess it depends where you think the issue is, for me it hasn't been about 'not giving them the opportunity' when a player has been good enough, he's been given that opportunity. We have underperformed for decades with our youth development, I think that issue is more related to Scouting / recruitment and development, rather than lack of opportunity. No point playing them if they aren't good enough can harm their development and could be dangerous for them.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:58 pm 
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I'm afraid reality is that there are always lots of promising youngsters who people bull up to be the next star. Wigan discard loads of youngsters and many are playing at various clubs. Perhaps the hyped up youngsters weren't world beaters to start with & we speccies are a bit gullible. When virtually all clubs fill their quota (of half their team) with foreign imports it tells you a lot.

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