Joined: Jul 12 2011 Posts: 504 Location: Great Britain; Greater Manchester
Johnkendal wrote:I cant agree more, i am firmly in the camp of you win or lose with grace, i firmly belive that Mcguire is a win at all costs coach and although he may be good company or a nice bloke as most people seem to say away from rugby i dont think he is good for our game. If Wayne Bennet or any other top aussie coach coached over here would he have the same win at all costs attitude?
On a side issue i think many of the issues from gloden boy sam are currently being created by the enviroment he finds himself in, created by Mcguire!! So for me i cant wait till Mcguire sods off and then tompkins will get proper coaching and hopefully his behaviour will improve. I know this would make this more difficult for my team to win but perhaps that just confirms the original point !
I agree. Look at Mourinho in footy - When he was at Chelsea I hated them, everything their players did annoyed the poop out of me. Then when he left they all seemed to stop all the stupid antics.
Then look to where Maguire came from before he went to Wigan; Melbourne. What is everyone always complaining about with Melbourne? Answer:ill-play, tackling technique, not playing within the spirit of the game, they've got the dirtiest moron in our sport playing for them in Cam Smith (hate the guy!)...
Joined: Mar 27 2006 Posts: 5799 Location: Coventry
Rugbychick™ wrote:I don't agree with that at all. We, as RL fans, always pride ourselves on the level of respect and good sportsmanship in the game and I wouldn't want to sacrifice that just to win. We'd become like the sports we're constantly disparaging on here
I accept your opinion as it's a forum, but for me this is one of the reasons why as a nation we aren't very good competing at an International level in any sports. We always take this attitude and it starts from very young, that it is "ok" to come 2nd, as opposed to just doing whatever it takes to winning.
Things like Sports Day in some school's have been banned now as it's seen as competing
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Joined: Feb 26 2002 Posts: 4712 Location: Warrington
Nothing wrong with playing to your strengths to win. I'm just glad we prefer to try and score off every set of six, rather than hoping to bore our opponents to death like Wigan do. I don't have a prob with macguire though.
Joined: Dec 07 2009 Posts: 445 Location: Padgit, Warrington
Coventry Warrior! wrote:I accept your opinion as it's a forum, but for me this is one of the reasons why as a nation we aren't very good competing at an International level in any sports. We always take this attitude and it starts from very young, that it is "ok" to come 2nd, as opposed to just doing whatever it takes to winning.
Things like Sports Day in some school's have been banned now as it's seen as competing
I agree to an extent. Aussies and Yanks aren't happy with silver and bronze etc. I do think in some sports the win at all costs attitude hampers progression when younger. Look at football as an example, when kids play football you have parents shouting angrily most game and a manager telling his players how important winning is. In spain they don't have leagues at youth level and a highe emphasis is placed on playing the game the right way.
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I'm just not sure about Madge, he looks like an angry bloke trying to stay in control all the time to me. I reckon if you were his son, and you drew a moustache & some glasses on Ian Beale on the cover of the TV Quick, he'd go off his head.
Take a chill Madge, you've a team who've been saving juice in victories all season just for this time of year, when we've been rattling 70's & 80's on teams, sensible Wigan have only been winning by the odd ten or 20, but it'll be us that it'll bite on the 'arris as we know doing all that stupid entertaining.
Wirefan wrote:I don't have a prob with macguire though.
I wouldn't say I had a problem with Maguire as such, but I do find it a bit off that he has worn the same shirt for every game in two years. I'm guessing Wigan are paying him enough to buy a second one. I wouldn't mind but I have a very similar shirt which, for that reason, has had to stay in my wardrobe for two years because I couldn't bear to resemble, the lizard-faced, gormless thug.
Still, I suppose he doesn't have to try too hard to look cultured when sitting next to Shaun Wane - jeez.
Joined: Feb 26 2002 Posts: 4712 Location: Warrington
Shaun Wane was rocking back and two in the changing room yesterday. Did anyone else notice it on sky? It was very strange. Both his feet were on the floor the whole time but he was definetily doing the jailhouse rock up top. Weird.
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