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| Myler by far
he is actually a threat to the opposition wheras Monaghan isn't!
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| Quote ="Crosfielder"Emphasis's what I've been trying to say for ages. Send the bloody lot back and bring our kids on.'"
I've been saying the same too. My own stat that I've posted countless times is that no team has won a Superleague grand Final with an Australian half-back. The only non English halves starting in a team that has won a GF are the Pauls, and they gave long service to their side from an early age. I've no real issue with young overseas players coming over to ply their trade because they tend to give long service, especially those from NZ or Islanders, but the evidence seems to indicate that you can't buy in success in crucial positions by buying the so called big names.
Its a shame we can;t search the archive of this board, because I bet there were plenty of Leeds and Saints fans back in the day who bemoaned not bringing in big name Aussie halves instead of playing McGuire, Burrow- or buying Pryce. I'm sure those same fans would never admit it today.
The other position I think we all need to worry about is centre. This is one where we are swamped with overseas players to the detriment of young British talent. In the last couple of seasons, we have seen some English centres come through, but there are all too many English second rowers playing in SL sides who have switched to second row or loose forward after starting their careers in the centres because of a lack of opportunity in their original position - and the one thing the English side is not short of is choice in the second row.
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| Monaghan easily...............stick with him
Myler is awful...........leave him where he is...........with us................
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| Myler will be a future GB player i've no doubt about that whatsover. As a Salford fan its brilliant to see someone as young as him dictating play i just worry about how long it will be before one of the big boys come knocking at our door!!
though monagahans (sp) kicking game was dreadfull tonight to be honest!
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| Quote ="JBrown832"Ridiculous comparison.
Mona's easily.
If you mean who's been better this season at halfback in SL, then it's Myler, but in general it's Monaghan.'"
Worst post for a long while!, are you saying mona was better 5 yrs ago when myler was 14? This is Mylers first full season as a senior and he is excelling. Its relatively easy for eastmond at saints behind a dominant pack, but myler and to an extent tompkins at wigan are doing the job behind very poor packs. Monahan has been behind great forwards his whole career, and is (in my humble opinion) behind some of the best props at least in superleague.
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| Quote ="Crosfielder"Thanks for your comments but this thread's losing it's focus. The point of it was to try and say that Australian imports are not the way to short/ medium or long term success. It's not about individuals'"
Then why the picking out of individual players?
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| Monaghan didn't look fit - he was having mini fitness tests throughout the warm up. He didn't play well, a marked contrast from how he played against Hull KR when he was excellent.
He always puts in though and he doesn't die wondering - you've got to admire his effort, particularly if, as I suspect, he wasn't 100% fit.
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| Quote ="bestgameofall"I've been saying the same too. My own stat that I've posted countless times is that no team has won a Superleague grand Final with an Australian half-back. The only non English halves starting in a team that has won a GF are the Pauls, and they gave long service to their side from an early age. I've no real issue with young overseas players coming over to ply their trade because they tend to give long service, especially those from NZ or Islanders, but the evidence seems to indicate that you can't buy in success in crucial positions by buying the so called big names.
Its a shame we can;t search the archive of this board, because I bet there were plenty of Leeds and Saints fans back in the day who bemoaned not bringing in big name Aussie halves instead of playing McGuire, Burrow- or buying Pryce. I'm sure those same fans would never admit it today.
The other position I think we all need to worry about is centre. This is one where we are swamped with overseas players to the detriment of young British talent. In the last couple of seasons, we have seen some English centres come through, but there are all too many English second rowers playing in SL sides who have switched to second row or loose forward after starting their careers in the centres because of a lack of opportunity in their original position - and the one thing the English side is not short of is choice in the second row.'"
Well said.
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| Moanahan. I see what you did there. Clever that. What next, Algebra?
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"Moanahan. I see what you did there. Clever that. What next, Algebra?'"
What have North African countries got to do with anything?
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| Quote ="Crosfielder"Emphasis's what I've been trying to say for ages. Send the bloody lot back and bring our kids on.'"
Them nasty furriners coming over here and taking our kids jobs.
Next time you're at the Halliwell Jones, you might see a wall dedicated to a certain Brian Bevan. Not too bad an import was he.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"What have North African countries got to do with anything?'"
Dunno, thought that's the way we were going, with random ramblings and the like.
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| more to the point
who plays for us monas or myler ?
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"more to the point
who plays for us monas or myler ?'"
The worst out of the two, which is Monas.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"What have North African countries got to do with anything?'"
What are you rabat-ing on about?
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| Quote ="FireWire"Them nasty furriners coming over here and taking our kids jobs.
Next time you're at the Halliwell Jones, you might see a wall dedicated to a certain Brian Bevan. Not too bad an import was he.'"
Grasping at straws my friend. That's donkeys years ago. When the big money didn't drag hoards of the mercenarys over to us.
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| Myler.
Main target for next year.......
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| Quote ="bestgameofall"I've been saying the same too. My own stat that I've posted countless times is that no team has won a Superleague grand Final with an Australian half-back. The only non English halves starting in a team that has won a GF are the Pauls, and they gave long service to their side from an early age. I've no real issue with young overseas players coming over to ply their trade because they tend to give long service, especially those from NZ or Islanders, but the evidence seems to indicate that you can't buy in success in crucial positions by buying the so called big names.
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The other position I think we all need to worry about is centre. This is one where we are swamped with overseas players to the detriment of young British talent. In the last couple of seasons, we have seen some English centres come through, but there are all too many English second rowers playing in SL sides who have switched to second row or loose forward after starting their careers in the centres because of a lack of opportunity in their original position - and the one thing the English side is not short of is choice in the second row.'"
Agreed on both points. Aussie half backs don't seem to fit well into the English game and we badly need to develop young centres within England.
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