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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:26 am 
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Geordie wrote:The board are partly to blame for the performance today, the board are partly to blame for the drop in attendances and here is why

The board made decisions that had a negetive effect on Cullens ability to have complete control of the playing squad. He lost control of the dressing room because of 1 or possibly a number of decisions that the board made.

That same board who once Paul Cullen had gone promissed a wold class coach but then failed to sign him and then panicked and put Jimmy Lowes in charge because he won a few games a coach remember who Salford that beat us today said wasn't upto coaching them.


Before we got Tony Smith in I thought the same as you, but with hindsight what happened makes sense. The board wanted Tony Smith, but the RFL wouldn't let Smith split duties between club and country before the World Cup as it was their big priority. So they decided that holding fire and getting Smith in this season was better than going for a lesser calibre coach straight away. They couldn't reveal this in public of course so had to give 'full backing' to James Lowes.

Now the board have got a top coach in so its a good result.

The criticism I have at the board is that they renewed Cullen's contract giving him another chance, past the time it was obvious he wasn't going to achieve any more than he already had. Same with some of the players who got contract renewals for mediocre performances.

On James Lowes, bringing him in was seen as a good move by most of our fans, remember when everyone said Cullen was a good coach but needed some help, instead of having the likes of Derbyshire and Chambers who had never won anything as players, we needed someone with experience of winning trophies like Forshaw or Lowes on the coaching staff.

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sally cinnamon wrote:The criticism I have at the board is that they renewed Cullen's contract giving him another chance, past the time it was obvious he wasn't going to achieve any more than he already had. Same with some of the players who got contract renewals for mediocre performances.


In light of the recent departures I think it should be questioned how much control Cullen actually had, how much the board would let him achieve. If he caused a rift by demanding that these players be dealt with, the board refused as they are 'names' and the players responded by refusing to perform, how much silverware is he going to win under that situation?



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Inside Knowledge wrote:I don't know why people are so downhearted about this, ok we should be beating teams like Salford but the club are going through a re-building process.

People who came here for the money and an easy ride were allowed to get away with it under Cullen and Lowes, now that TS has taken over those players are no longer allowed an easy ride and the money is going to be taken away from them also.

TS is slowly but surely getting rid of the waste, Gleeson, Reardon with Monaghan and King allowed to talk to other clubs, you can be rest assured that more men will be gone between now and the the start of next year.

TS will start to bring in quality hard working players who he feels he can work with and are not money motivated, he may also bring in new coach's but this will take a while to sort out (at least a year) so until that time comes we will lose silly games here and there but you have to take the rough with the smooth, there's now relegation either so let's just right this season off and support the the club in what there doing.

What happens this year we will be better for it next year.


Monas & King allowed to talk to other clubs ? Since when ?

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Paul2812 wrote:Monas & King allowed to talk to other clubs ? Since when ?


Probably since both made it clear they want away from Wire ASAP.... 8)

Smith made it clear through his Gleeson departure statement, that wantaways will not have their paths blocked.

Expect the pair to see out the season, but be prepared for announcements regarding a return to OZ for them both in the near future.






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Inside Knowledge wrote:I don't know why people are so downhearted about this, ok we should be beating teams like Salford but the club are going through a re-building process.

People who came here for the money and an easy ride were allowed to get away with it under Cullen and Lowes, now that TS has taken over those players are no longer allowed an easy ride and the money is going to be taken away from them also.

TS is slowly but surely getting rid of the waste, Gleeson, Reardon with Monaghan and King allowed to talk to other clubs, you can be rest assured that more men will be gone between now and the the start of next year.

TS will start to bring in quality hard working players who he feels he can work with and are not money motivated, he may also bring in new coach's but this will take a while to sort out (at least a year) so until that time comes we will lose silly games here and there but you have to take the rough with the smooth, there's now relegation either so let's just right this season off and support the the club in what there doing.

What happens this year we will be better for it next year.
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Why should Ts bring in hard working players when i bet you if he dropped some of the big names King Monas Etc Etc and played some of the young guys whom will give you that extra mile it might just be the wake up call for some of the old heads

With the no relegation than blood the youngster for next season then bring in a couple of players who have played super league before

i would be happy watching a team of youngsters who give it blood sweat and tears for the clause than a bunch of money grabbin slackers who only care about th £££££££££££££££

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Like I said on the initial post.

Put Murphy in charge and the Aussie tourists of 82 in a Wire shirt and we'd be no better off.

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