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TheDoc wrote:Then you stick with what you believe and I will stick with the truth
I don;t actually disagree with the video trickery theory, in fact I am convinced of it after tonights 'reveal', I just disagree that there is clear proof on the video.

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Everyone says Brown always explains how, so what did he say? What was his explanation? Can he do this every draw? What exactly did he do? Did he do it or did somebody else do it?

It just seems on here that some are saying it was a camera trick, whilst other people are just saying "no, Brown wouldn't do that", but they haven't explained what he actually did to say he didn't use camera trickery. If it wasn't camera trickery or a rigged machine; what was it?

Why wasn't Brown allowed to show his prediction, say 10 minutes before the draw?

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look on u tube at a clip entitled derren browns lottery trick - possible solution

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Dave T wrote:I don;t actually disagree with the video trickery theory, in fact I am convinced of it after tonights 'reveal', I just disagree that there is clear proof on the video.


if the proof on video was easy to see then it wouldnt be much of a trick - the one mistake that gave it away was the rising ball

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TheDoc wrote:look on u tube at a clip entitled derren browns lottery trick - possible solution


Seems simple enough for me. That'll do squire. After watching him actually doing the draw, it seems pretty convincing.

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I think the program of tonights explanation is being repeated on 4 about now

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Clever guy and superb self-publicist. He's even got 9 pages on an RL Forum talking about this poop.

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The show last night amounted to little more than blah blah blah for an hour then Derren Brown trying to convince people that the group came up with the numbers which he then said he re-adjusted the numbers based and some mathmatical formula out of sight of the group.

Ask yourself why a group that had helped him for so long and had put a lot of hours into this project didn`t even get to see the numbers before hand, they couldn`t have put the numbers on themselves as the channel 4 producers and lawyers would have got them to sign a legal agreement where they couldn`t discuss the project or play the draw on this particular day in a similar way that a jury can`t discuss a case until the trial is over.

1. The group that had helped him for so long didn`t even know what the numbers were themselves and they were supposed to be the ones that did most of the leg work and came up with the basis for the numbers.

2. At no point were the numbers revealed to the public before hand, they could have been released 5 mins before the draw was made and that wouldn`t have broken any agreement and it woouldn`t have influenced the draw or result in any way as this was one blokes opinion on what the numbers might be on that day.

The trick/illusion relied on knowing the result before hand and thats all it was, a trick/illusion. Its got a split screen written all over it, working on it for a year lol ...... Any good video editer could come up with the same result in a few days with the right set and equipment.

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eddie gordo wrote:Clever guy and superb self-publicist. He's even got 9 pages on an RL Forum talking about this poop.

Lock it......................


This thread has had more interesting, intelligent debate on it than half the RL-related threads on here.


TheDoc wrote:Then you stick with what you believe and I will stick with the truth


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Rob Wire wrote:The trick/illusion relied on knowing the result before hand and thats all it was, a trick/illusion. Its got a split screen written all over it, working on it for a year lol ...... Any good video editer could come up with the same result in a few days with the right set and equipment.


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Peckerwood wrote:Just to quash one theory out of extinction. Some people think that the fact the camera was shaking is a sign the whole thing was faked etc. I defy anyone to film a piece of footage hand held (like the cameraman was as we saw on Wednesday) and not make the video shake. Its almost impossible for anyone to hold a piece of equipment like that and there not be some sort of movement. If you don't believe me, look at when Bill Arthur is interviewing a coach or man of the match at the end of a Sky game and you will see the same thing occur.


I completely agree with Peckerwood. The fact that the camera was shaking ever so slightly throughout proves it could not have been a split screen. If it had been a split screen there would have been movement variations along the bottom and top of the screen and along the 'split'. Anyone who can't logically understand that needs their head testing.






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