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 Post subject: Re: Sims/Wheeler/Philbin
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:14 pm 
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Glad to see you're all behind him

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 Post subject: Re: Sims/Wheeler/Philbin
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I'd hate to be behind him, if I was in the queue for the Physio's table.

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 Post subject: Re: Sims/Wheeler/Philbin
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Gary Wheelchair, please sir can you can me your agents card, i have a turd polishing business that hasn't quite taken off yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Sims/Wheeler/Philbin
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:50 pm 
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Get him fit n he can do a job. Nowhere near as bad as some make out. Getting him match ready is the issue.

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I'd say not being able to play is a fairly big issue though isn't it?






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 Post subject: Re: Sims/Wheeler/Philbin
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Also worth noting in the games he's actually played he's been hopeless. ...

It was never like getting a Ronnie Duane or a mark Roberts back from injury. ....

We gave Wheeler a one year contract to show what he could do ...he did what most expected. .get injured. ..

There is no shame or ruthlessness in letting him go... We have shafted many a seasoned pro in recent years we certainly don't have to show Wheeler any compassion. ....






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 Post subject: Re: Sims/Wheeler/Philbin
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:39 am 
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Can't get my head round Wheeler surely we would have been better to bring Ryan Shaw back who had a good year for Bradford and now signed for Hull K R can play centre, wing, fullback and can kick goals he wouldn't be first choice in the first team but could play reserves and a good back up in a long season I would have thought salary would be similar

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 Post subject: Re: Sims/Wheeler/Philbin
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He would make a good programme seller. He wouldn't get injured doing that....

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:59 am 
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Laughing Gravy wrote:Glad to see you're all behind him


It's a bit of a two way situation though isn't it? The club and the supporters have backed plenty of players through periods of injury and rightly, or wrongly, it is usually based on the player actually contributing something to the team.

A player like Grix 'earned' our compassion through his exploits in the P&B, we certainly missed him last year. Wheeler on the other hand....I'm sorry to say I'm with the majority on here, he might be potentially a great player but he hasn't shown that here yet and I doubt he ever will.

We don't owe the lad anything and IMO certainly less than giving one of our own youngsters a chance to step up now and again and build their career

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 Post subject: Re: Sims/Wheeler/Philbin
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Saddened! wrote:You are in the same conundrum Saints faced with Wheeler. The coaching staff are no doubt seeing him train, seeing on a daily basis the natural talent he has and being drawn into believing they can get the best out of him. That combined with the fear that if you release him he'll show that potential at another club. It's amazing to think he's been given another chance at a top SL club. After so many years at Saints, then a continuation of the same issues at Warrington, he really has to realise it's now or never for his career.

Another possibility being discussed on the Saints forum is clubs picking up average players to flesh out the reserve side. We're rumoured to be signing half of Widnes's fringe players on sub-salary cap level (£20k/£30k?) for that purpose. Potentially Wheeler fits this, low wage, aim to play in the reserves and potentially push for first team and provide injury cover?

The reserve team filler makes sense, if it is to be a U23's would Wheeler be eligible as I'm not sure how old he is 25/26? or whether one or two over age players would be allowed to play after injury.

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