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the tache is back wrote:we are in fine financial shape and now have some more cash to work with.


There will surely have to be cutbacks this year as revenue is falling.

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I'm sure we will be feeling the effects of the recession like everybody else, but I'd be very surprised if things were this bad.

Let's be honest, if a club like Warrington were close to receivership, the journos would have got hold of it, rather than some loon on the Warrington Guardian website!

He also says look at the facts when talking about Reardon out but nobody new in, well we signed Mathers a few days before, so he clearly doesn't deal in facts anyway.

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mark_m wrote:There will surely have to be cutbacks this year as revenue is falling.

i was chatting yesterday to simon moran and he didn't seem unduly worried about anything,he just said that super league will probably not be as attractive to most aussies now due to the tax issues,this applies to all clubs.






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the tache is back wrote:i was chatting yesterday to simon moran and he didn't seem unduly worried about anything,he just said that super league will probably not be as attractive to most aussies now due to the tax issues,this applies to all clubs.


tbh I was thinking mainly about the effect the lower attendances and (probable) reduced sponsorship would have on the salary cap and the impact on the wage bill. I suspect we have fallen again from the high we had a few years ago of 11,000.

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Ian [77] wrote:Apart from anonymous comments on the Warrington Guardian message board, there's no evidence we're in any sort of difficulty financially. On that basis, I'd have to say no.


It could be a possible reason for selling our best strike player to Wigan (mid season) to raise funds, the move to Wigan seemed to happen very quickly for whatever the reasons considering Gleeson was keen to give the NRL a go in 2010 of which i`m sure he could have found a club seeing as Grose found one without too much of a problem. I aint saying this is why he moved as it could simply be that Tony Smith spotted something where he needed to move the player on in the clubs best interests..... Who knows but its possible he could have moved for financial reasons.

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Rob Wire wrote:It could be a possible reason for selling our best strike player to Wigan (mid season) to raise funds, the move to Wigan seemed to happen very quickly for whatever the reasons considering Gleeson was keen to give the NRL a go in 2010 of which i`m sure he could have found a club seeing as Grose found one without too much of a problem. I aint saying this is why he moved as it could simply be that Tony Smith spotted something where he needed to move the player on in the clubs best interests..... Who knows but its possible he could have moved for financial reasons.


Or possibly we would of got nothing for him come the end of the season?

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Rob Wire wrote:It could be a possible reason for selling our best strike player to Wigan (mid season) to raise funds, the move to Wigan seemed to happen very quickly for whatever the reasons considering Gleeson was keen to give the NRL a go in 2010. I aint saying this is why he moved as it could simply be that Tony Smith spotted something where he needed to move the player on in the clubs best interests..... Who knows but its possible he could have moved for financial reasons.


I think it's highly unlikely that Martin Gleeson was moved on for financial reasons. I think yet again here, we're in danger of turning what was a positive (The club acting, and getting rid of a player who was not fully commited to the cause, after years of tolerance of player mediocrity) and turning it into a negative as if the clubs in some sort of financial ruin and had to cash in quickly on an asset, I just find that farcical.

If the club were to make savings on the playing staff, I think there's tonnes of wise this could be done, you could get rid of Pickersgill, Louis Anderson & Reardon say, and not replace them as such, just promote Neal & McCarthy and it not effect the squad hugely whilst saving yourself probably £150k plus per year.

I think as a club, we'll always get alot of mud thrown at us given our investment, high profile we have when linked with players in Australia, Johns £10k a game saga etc etc, the trick is to shrug it off and concentrate on the facts.

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Big Dave 3 wrote:Or possibly we would of got nothing for him come the end of the season?


We would have got nothing for Gleeson anwyay if he had carried out his plan to play out this season and look for an NRL club in 2010, the deal to Wigan seemed to happen very quickly for whatever the reasons, like i said previously i`m just putting forward one possible reason from many possibilities as to why he moved so quickly.

Clubs don`t make a habit of letting their best players leave especially mid season unless something is forced on them, if you remember Bradford let Stuart Fielden leave mid season and i would say that was mainly down to Bradford being in financial trouble at the time and the money was too good to refuse in their situation, maybe we have a situation with these new tax laws... Who knows as i don`t.

My own opinion for what its worth is that it was a Tony Smith decision to release Gleeson, anyway its all guesswork as only Tony Smith and our club know the real reasons.


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We bring in £100k after spending God knows how many times that over the past few years, and we are in trouble!

Mr Tickle has just put his hand through the letter box and his working his magic.






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Rob Wire wrote:It could be a possible reason for selling our best strike player to Wigan (mid season) to raise funds, the move to Wigan seemed to happen very quickly for whatever the reasons considering Gleeson was keen to give the NRL a go in 2010 of which i`m sure he could have found a club seeing as Grose found one without too much of a problem. I aint saying this is why he moved as it could simply be that Tony Smith spotted something where he needed to move the player on in the clubs best interests..... Who knows but its possible he could have moved for financial reasons.


Possibly. But the part of my post that you highlighted is still correct - there's no evidence whatsoever to support the contention that we're in difficulty financially. In fact, if we were in the proverbial, I very much doube we would have signed Mathers.

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