Post subject: How do we solve the play-off problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:46 pm
Teessidewire
Player Coach
Joined: May 08 2006 Posts: 5110 Location: Stockton-on-Tees
Yes, I know there's another thread running about play-off crowds, but that's developed into a 'let's laugh at Wigan's crowd' campaign. This is more of a look at play-off gates in general and suggestions on how they could be improved. The crowds at the weekend were both poor, and made to look worse as both games were held in reasonably sized stadiums. As I see it the problem is two-fold; 1. Lack of time to promote and sell the matches. Clubs only had 7 days to sell the matches, and some of the games were not that attractive. 2. Lack of cash for fans to purchase tickets for extra end of season games.
We can't change the time that clubs have to sell tickets, but we can improve the potential quality by reverting back to a Top 6 play-off system. To me the Top 8 gives a reward for the mediocrity of finishing below halfway in a 14 team league. People have complained about having to shell out £18 minimum for tickets to these extra games (had anyone had to travel to Hull it would have been £22 and £5 to park, daylight robbery). My suggestion is a 40% discount for season ticket holders of both clubs for the first play-off match, and 30% for the second game. No doubt the RFL will look at the 2 games this coming weekend, which will probably be sellouts in medium sized stadiums and then point out that O/T will also be sold out, and then say the play-offs have been a big success, and completely ignore what's gone before, which is completely wrong. Anyone else got any suggestions?
Post subject: Re: How do we solve the play-off problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:43 pm
Wirefan
International Chairman
Joined: Feb 26 2002 Posts: 4712 Location: Warrington
Do away with the ridiculous top 8. Make top 4, winner of each progresses to final. 1st v 4th, 2nd v 3rd. Much fairer and much more exciting. People will be more inclined to pay for 1/2 games than 4 potentially.
If that doesnt work scrap the bloody thing and make the league leaders champions again.
Post subject: Re: How do we solve the play-off problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:27 pm
Lost in Leeds
Club Owner
Joined: Mar 16 2004 Posts: 229 Location: Leeds
Reducing the number of dead rubbers in the play-offs may seem a good idea. However, it reality it just moves the problem to dead rubbers from the playoffs to the regular season. Many Hull/Cas/KR games would have been dead rubbers for the previous month and Salford/Bradford for the previous 4 months.
Post subject: Re: How do we solve the play-off problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:58 pm
Teessidewire
Player Coach
Joined: May 08 2006 Posts: 5110 Location: Stockton-on-Tees
Lost in Leeds wrote:Reducing the number of dead rubbers in the play-offs may seem a good idea. However, it reality it just moves the problem to dead rubbers from the playoffs to the regular season. Many Hull/Cas/KR games would have been dead rubbers for the previous month and Salford/Bradford for the previous 4 months.
Post subject: Re: How do we solve the play-off problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:04 pm
latchfordbob
Club Coach
Joined: Feb 21 2005 Posts: 1238 Location: Latchford
Lost in Leeds wrote:Reducing the number of dead rubbers in the play-offs may seem a good idea. However, it reality it just moves the problem to dead rubbers from the playoffs to the regular season. Many Hull/Cas/KR games would have been dead rubbers for the previous month and Salford/Bradford for the previous 4 months.
C'est la vie. With the franchise system, the bottom of the table clashes are dead rubbers. Should they be included in the play offs as well?
Post subject: Re: How do we solve the play-off problem?
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:24 pm
Paul Youane
Club Owner
Joined: Aug 31 2003 Posts: 7605
The play-offs and the Grand Final are pretty much the only way the RFL have of rasing revenue. There is no way that they are going to reduce the number of play-off matches.
Behind The Stick posted an interesting post on this very subject the other day that everybody ignored possibly because it was too difficult to argue with the contents.
Its alright talking about making games knock-out fixtures but that didn't do much ofr the semi-final attendance between Wigan and Saints this year. Wasn't there more at their first round play-off game than at the semi? If not there was little difference.
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