wire 74 wrote:I think our forwards have laid a good platform for the backs to work off .Morley and Rauhihi have been outstanding and criticism for our poor start lays solely at the feet of the backs and Briers and Monaghan in particular our forwards have been emence and shouldn't be tarred with the same brush, top props imo are Graham Morley Peacock Rauhihi Cayless Sam Burgess
In that order imo
so who was it that was missing tackles left right and centre against quins then? just the backs and all tries were scored out wide i take it?
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Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:Briers seems to get to much praise from fans because of his 10 year devotion to the club, for the whole 10 years Briers has been an average player in some very poor teams which makes him look like a world beater. You cant honestly say Briers is or was a world class half-back, he's never played for Britain on a regular basis (not judging him on that) and please don't tell me there were to many other good half-backs around because if your worthy of a place in the international team you get one, Briers was never called up because of his defence even when all and sundry were protesting for him to be picked the offer was never forthcoming.
Now that the game has moved on from 4,5,6 years ago more and more people are starting to relies Briers isn't that good when you watch the other half-backs that are around these days, Briers has also been lucky that the coach's have liked him as a person (not a player) the coach's such as DVDV and Cullen were his best mate, Anderson and Plange didn't like him much but they wasn't here long enough anyway.
All in all Briers has had a very fortunate career and is getting far to much praise for it, i for one hope his contract isn't renewed and if it isn't it will be because he isn't good enough and nothing to do with his age as some people seem to think.
So many holes and inaccuracies in that and given it's written by such a one-eyed negative bigot, I can't be bothered responding.
SEB wrote:So many holes and inaccuracies in that and given it's written by such a one-eyed negative bigot, I can't be bothered responding.
but you kinda did anyway D'OH!
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Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:You cant honestly say Briers is or was a world class half-back, he's never played for Britain on a regular basis (not judging him on that) and please don't tell me there were to many other good half-backs around because if your worthy of a place in the international team you get one, Briers was never called up because of his defence even when all and sundry were protesting for him to be picked the offer was never forthcoming.
What a ridiculous statement - Brian Bevan never played for Australia - I guess he must have been average as well on this basis
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Lord of Lincolnshire wrote:What a ridiculous statement - Brian Bevan never played for Australia - I guess he must have been average as well on this basis
Read my post again and you will see i said i wasn't judging him on that.
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Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:if your worthy of a place in the international team you get one.
Okay - still reads the same. Cracking contradiction in there...!! You say your not judging him on international appearances and then come out with the above. So, he didn't get too many GB caps and therefore, in your words, not worthy.
Oh and he was asked to cover for the departing Mr Long (after he spat his dummy and refused to say sorry for being a naughty boy) when they were in Aus the other year and declined the offer. I don't think Lee and Noble get on you see.....
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We’ve waited too long for this day to come
Thirty thousand Wires standing as one
All travelling down, a sight to be seen
Man, woman and child sharing one dream
Tension in the crown as kick off draws near
Mixed emotions: excitement and fear
Restlessness as we huddle like cattle
Then Morley appears ready for battle
The rest of the team follow to fight to the death
The hooter sounds and we all hold our breath
Again the fans will have their own role
To sing and show passion deep from the soul
There may be times the players feel beat
Feeling too weak to achieve this huge feat
With their hopes and dreams they’ll look to the skies
To see a Primrose and Blue haze in front of their eyes
Then comes the roar; we never stop believing
This is one relationship we won’t be leaving
Cut us we bleed like everyone, that’s true
The difference being we bleed Primrose and Blue!
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Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:100% agree, all being fit we have the best forward pack in the league and two quality half-backs would have an absolute field day playing behind them, unfortunately we have Briers instead.
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Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:As i have said on numerous occasions he get's pushed into the background when Briers plays, drop Briers and you will see the best of him.
If such a great scrum half gets pushed into the background when playing alongside a scrawny standoff thats never played for Great Britain... is alledgedly part of the old pop drinkers regime and is an all round crap halfback who cant kick defend or run......then Christ Help Monaghan when he's faced with a Bradford Leeds or Saints pack that are on top................I'll get me clean shorts....
I dont Recall Allan Langer getting Pushed into the Background....did Andrew Johns have to listen to Cullen say Joey your just here as a publicity stunt Let Briers do his stuff.....
Briers has played alongside the best and the worst and the ordinary......Michael Monaghan is in the ordinary i'm afraid, you need to accept it .....if he improves then great but dont blame Monaghans form on Briers
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D'OH! 
