i know there is a lot of stick for the coach but i'm not hearing anything for the players? There the ones making mistakes ie knocking on/missing tackles/messing around at the ruck etc. Do you think he tells them to go out and do that? When is some blame also going to go to alker? isn't he on the coaching staff? nothing is getting aimed at him, just mcrae!
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The thing I find most frustrating is that Crusaders had no team at all at the end of last season and have managed to assemble one that managed to beat us after having two years to prepare.
I didn't think much of 'Nobby' as a Coach at Bradford or Wigan, but clearly he is achieving much more than the S**G already.
Apart from just enjoying the night out and any game of Rugby in general, there isn't much point in attending the Willows if you would like to see exciting rugby or a win!
they've assembled a team pretty much full of aussies who are no mugs! Why do our fans think we had a god given right to just beat them? There players wanted it more than ours! We have got a very young team and it shown that night against a team with a lot more experience.
Joined: Mar 29 2006 Posts: 529 Location: Ashton in Makerfield
We have no god given right to beat anybody agreed. I just think something's sadly lacking within our club when this type of situation happens.
I suppose fans of Halifax and Widnes can point to Salford and wonder how we got to be in SL before them, and they would have a fair point.
I just feel that when we achieved the play offs under KH it gave us a glimpse of our potential and unfortunately it's been downhill ever since...............with no immediate prospect of recovery.
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redhope wrote:What upset me most about Sunday was that to me on paper both clubs are very similar, as I would say about the teams. Where we are different is the way they both approached the game the attitude and the understanding both individually and collectively the job they had to do. The set up and the pattern is dictated by the coach and to me this was another case of one team looking well drilled/coached and Salford. If i`m right about the two teams (on paper) then it comes back to the coach and the level of commitment/performance he is obtaining and sadly I don`t believe SM and his team are getting the best from what we have. Ultimately we were outplayed in every facet of the game by a team we should be looking to be on a par with, if not looking to surpass
Yes in many ways we are, except on the pitch. Wakafield IMHO have more quality players than Salford, especially in the pack and the halves. Remember you were beaten by a team minus Brough, Newton (never mind on that one) and Jeffries, all key players for us and both capable of commanding a place at most SL clubs. Sure Cookes a nice addition but he's way off the pace at the moment. Plus we are last years Academy champions.
Sorry to sound arrogant but we have moved a long way in playing terms.
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Jaymc9 wrote:i know there is a lot of stick for the coach but i'm not hearing anything for the players? There the ones making mistakes ie knocking on/missing tackles/messing around at the ruck etc. Do you think he tells them to go out and do that? When is some blame also going to go to alker? isn't he on the coaching staff? nothing is getting aimed at him, just mcrae!
Huge mistake putting Alker in that role IMHO, I would have kept Robbie and had him coaching, but I have said all this before. Yes the players must take some blame but the coaches issue the game plan and this obviously does not work, plus it is driving fans away.
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I think what we are saying is that Wakefield have a similar salary cap to us, but their players want to play and some very good players are attracted there, I just wonder what the difference is?
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SRLFC JK wrote:This does make sense. I wonder if the decision has been made to "write off" this season and base all hopes on starting to build in 2011 for the stadium in 2012. Finances must be really tight, I wonder how many of the Director's own businesses are struggling? Most of them probably have no cash to throw at the club right now, but in 12 months time it may look better. I am also unsure if the current "down" that surrounds the club will cause long term damage, but that may be a risk the chairman and board are willing to take.
See through the season, new coach in the off season when it costs less to end the contract of SM, start building again???????
I agree with you and the poster you were quoting, but I also have a sneaky feeling that during this time of uncertainty a Bradford esq 96 might appear on our records again, and I have a feeling it will be either Warrington or Wigan that do it. Just a feeling but I think we are that bad.
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What suprises me is Ratchford on the bench. Last season he was considered one of the most promising up and coming young players, what's happened?
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Wellsy13 wrote:To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!
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